[Publius]

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Earlier threads:

FReeper Book Club: The Debate over the Constitution
5 Oct 1787, Centinel #1
6 Oct 1787, James Wilson’s Speech at the State House
8 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #1
9 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #2
18 Oct 1787, Brutus #1
22 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #1
27 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #2
27 Oct 1787, Federalist #1
31 Oct 1787, Federalist #2
3 Nov 1787, Federalist #3
5 Nov 1787, John DeWitt #3
7 Nov 1787, Federalist #4
10 Nov 1787, Federalist #5
14 Nov 1787, Federalist #6
15 Nov 1787, Federalist #7
20 Nov 1787, Federalist #8
21 Nov 1787, Federalist #9
23 Nov 1787, Federalist #10
24 Nov 1787, Federalist #11
27 Nov 1787, Federalist #12
27 Nov 1787, Cato #5
28 Nov 1787, Federalist #13
29 Nov 1787, Brutus #4
30 Nov 1787, Federalist #14
1 Dec 1787, Federalist #15
4 Dec 1787, Federalist #16
5 Dec 1787, Federalist #17
7 Dec 1787, Federalist #18
8 Dec 1787, Federalist #19
11 Dec 1787, Federalist #20
12 Dec 1787, Federalist #21
14 Dec 1787, Federalist #22
18 Dec 1787, Federalist #23
18 Dec 1787, Address of the Pennsylvania Minority
19 Dec 1787, Federalist #24

[Vaquero]

I have a hard time reading these tomes...my short attention span requires me to get the jist of these things...’I skim, therefore I am...’

That being said....

...some leftist was on Fox this AM saying how the progressive Theodore Roosevelt hated Thomas Jefferson, ‘rightly so’ because Jefferson believed in States rights...

[GOP_Raider]

At 17, Hamilton points out that in a struggle between the states and federal authority, the people would be more likely to side with their state. The Civil War marks a split decision on this topic. Why did Hamilton get this one wrong?

Well, in Hamilton's defense, it's kind of difficult to predict the future. But perhaps another question could be that with many in this country siding with their state(s) over Obamacare, could Hamilton be vindicated in some sense?

[sig226]

I find it interesting that the first Americans feared a standing army so much that they forgot the reason they had to fight against one. It took years to turn the colonies against the crown. There are 27 casus belli in the Declaration of Independence. Six invoke armies, plus the accusation that the king used mock trials to prevent the punishment of soldiers who killed colonial citizens.

Twenty or twenty one of the arguments for the revolution concerned usurpation of power and malicious application of it. Although the army was the threat, King George was equally infamous for tampering with the colonial governments and for using taxation and regulation to play one colony against another.

I’m familiar with Thomas Jefferson’s quotes on the subjects of war and liberty, but I’d like to read other sources and more detailed letters regarding the belief that the U.S. government is to be trusted when that of its brothers was considered tyrannical. Any reccomendations are appreciated.