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To: curiosity

I’m not making anything up. The documentation is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

The HDOH has confirmed several different times that Obama’s BC has been amended, which is supposed to be noted on a genuine COLB but isn’t noted on either Factcheck or Fight the Smears. And the certificate number and filing date on the Factcheck COLB aren’t compatible, according to the HDOH. That’s 2 different ways we know the Factcheck COLB is a forgery, based on what the HDOH itself has said.

Hawaii can’t confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii because what they have for him is not prima facie evidence. What they could confirm (if Obama would give them permission) is that they have a CLAIM that Obama was born in Hawaii - which is what Fukino said in her July 2009 statement. She said that Obama’s vital records (plural, meaning that there is more than one document included in Obama’s birth record) include a claim that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Interestingly enough, the AG’s office has backed off of even that much and now claims that Fukino’s basis for her statement was not what she saw on the birth certificate but Obama’s name being on the current birth index list - which the AG’s office says means that the birth was in Hawaii. But if they include in the current index legally deficient records (those which are not prima facie evidence, as is the case with Obama’s) then the birth index says nothing about the legal status of any claims made on the document, including the place of birth.

Furthermore, government officials are required to show the documents on which they base public announcements. That’s because the HDOH, for instance, is not AUTHORIZED to make announcements. They are authorized to release documents, from which people can make their own conclusions. So why does Fukino refuse to release the documents on which she based her statement?

And why did she illegally hide the Administrative Rules until November 2009?

And why is the HDOH destroying permanent records - for which they are now under investigation by the Ombudsman’s Office?


53 posted on 06/08/2010 11:00:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
I’m not making anything up.

Yes you are.

The documentation is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

I saw your blog. You have no record of the HDOH stating his BC was forged or amended.

The HDOH has confirmed several different times that Obama’s BC has been amended,

No they have not. You are inferring (incorrectly) that it is amended based on some of their responses to you. However, you have yet to provide a single quotation from HDOH stating that it is amended.

If you had asserted that statements from the HDOH imply, in your opinion, that his BC it is amended, then you would be telling the truth.

However, since you have no statement from the HDOH that the factcheck COLB is forged, or even that the BC is amended, the your assertion that DHOH confirmed the COLB was forged is an outright lie.

Since lying is a sin, I suggest you stop. Consider this fraternal correction from a fellow believer.

54 posted on 06/08/2010 11:36:34 AM PDT by curiosity
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