If the court kills the ban(Chicago)

Chicago Tribune ^ | 7 June, 2010 | na

[marktwain]

Back in the 1980s, people did lots of things that might seem hard to understand today. Women sported big hair and shoulder pads. Pop music fans listened to New Kids on the Block. Motorists bought the Yugo, which has been rated one of the worst cars ever built. And Chicago passed a law barring residents from acquiring handguns. We can't justify those other developments, but the handgun law passed with the Tribune's support. It was a reasonable attempt to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and reduce the number of homicides, which in 1981, the year before the ban was enacted, averaged more than two a day. Today, though, that well-meaning ban's days appear to be numbered. The U.S. Supreme Court, which is now considering a legal challenge to the law, is likely to find it violates the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. How much difference would that make? Not as much as we would like. Gang members and other criminals have not had much trouble getting pistols and revolvers. Chicago's murder rate has fallen but remains stubbornly high. What's more, many Chicagoans with no criminal history also have ignored the ban: One expert has estimated that 100,000 homes in the city may have handguns.

[marktwain]

From National Review:

"Murder rates soared in D.C. and Chicago after their gun bans were put in place. As shown in the just released third edition of my book More Guns, Less Crime, before the late-1982 ban, Chicago's murder rate was falling relative to those in the nine other largest cities, the 50 largest cities, the five counties that border Cook County (in which the city is located), and the U.S. as a whole. After the ban, Chicago's murder rate rose relative to all these other places. Compared with the 50 most populous cities, Chicago's murder rate went from equaling the average for the other cities in 1982, to exceeding their average murder rate by 32 percent in 1992, to exceeding their average by 68 percent in 2002."

More court cases coming. Palmer addresses carry outside the home in D.C.

[Red in Blue PA]

Murders in Philadelphia. Note the state applied Right to Carry to the city in 1995.

1990 500
1995 432
1996 423
1997 418
1998 338
1999 292
2000 319
2001 309
2002 288
2003 348
2004 330
2005 380
2006 406
2007 392

[Old Teufel Hunden]

The article admits that criminals have no problems getting guns. Then goes on to outline how after the gun ban is struck down, the politicians need to figure out a way for legal, everyday citizens have to pass stringent tests to acquire a firearm. Unbelievable...

[School of Rational Thought]

To summarize, Chicago’s sensible laws did not work, but hopefullyl the court will allow Chicago to pass further “sensible” laws that won’t work.

[from occupied ga]

though, that well-meaning ban's

"Well meaning" my a$$. And then the article goes on to urge Chicago's organized thugs (otherwise know as the Daley run city government) to pass laws almost as restrictive so as to keep a de facto ban.

[School of Rational Thought]

Murders in Philadelphia. Note the state applied Right to Carry to the city in 1995. 1990 500 1995 432 1996 423 1997 418 1998 338 1999 292 2000 319 2001 309 2002 288 2003 348 2004 330 2005 380 2006 406 2007 392

What happened at 2005+ ?

[sergeantdave]

In Chicago, an 80 year old Korean war vet shot a scumbag burglar in his house with his unregistered pistol. Mayor Shortshanks isn’t sure what to do - prosecute or drop this hot potato.

At Second City Cop, a blog for Chicago cops, they’ve offered to buy the vet a bigger gun, take him out to dinner at the restaurant of his choice or give him boxes of ammo. Good for the Chicago PD rank and file.

Shortshanks and his gang of city thugs may be heading for a reckoning. He is not liked by certain people who know where the bodies are buried. Not good news for the resident thug infesting the whitehouse. Caged canaries tend to sing real loud.

[Red in Blue PA]

Still less than Pre-1995 levels, even with population growth.

[Red in Blue PA]

If he was white, he would be in jail now. Does anyone doubt this?

[Daisyjane69]

That is a GREAT BLOG:

http://www.secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

Lotta cool hombres over there. LOL

Shortshanks=Daley

Gotta love it!

[arthurus]

But Chicago has a duty to respect the Constitution as it is interpreted

So How does the 2nd need "interpreting." There is not any other sentence in English that is any plainer than the Second Amendment! except for those who believe that the actual words in the Constitution are irrelevant and they mean whatever someone in authority says they mean. That is government by fiat. That is absolute rule, or as we call it now, totalitarianism.

[green iguana]

Mayor Shortshanks isn’t sure what to do - prosecute or drop this hot potato.

He can't prosecute - state law forbids it.

[devistate one four]

I go thru chicago at least three times a year and carry concealed everytime.

I never spend so much as a nickle in that place.

I’m a criminal.

Keep smiling!

[mike-zed]

Daley is clinically insane. And since he marches around with armed guards, a blatant hypocrite.

[Dan Nunn]

Still less than Pre-1995 levels, even with population growth.

Exactly. I wish the stats were a "Murders per 100,000 persons" stat to get an even better picture.