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Teen sailor Abby Sunderland focus of emergency rescue effort
Pete Thomas Outdoors ^ | June 10, 2010 | Pete Thomas

Posted on 06/10/2010 10:19:33 AM PDT by ml/nj

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To: ml/nj

She’s near Antarctica. That water is cold.


81 posted on 06/10/2010 12:53:17 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: al baby

AMEN.


82 posted on 06/10/2010 12:54:26 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

And deep too


83 posted on 06/10/2010 12:56:22 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: ml/nj

It’s nice to see posts from someone else who has followed the Sunderlands. I was at Fisherman’s Village, Marina del Rey, for Zac’s homecoming.


84 posted on 06/10/2010 12:57:21 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

Best wishes.


85 posted on 06/10/2010 1:04:50 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: GeronL
parental neglect

I fully agree. Much like mountain climbers climbing in winter...or "base jumpers" (folks who jump off buildings or cliffs with a parachute) I don't see the point of such "extreme sports" except for the adrenaline rush and public applause...which only breeds personal pride and arrogance.

There is no courage involved here, as courage is about risking yourself FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S BENEFIT. Attempts such as this are sheer fool-hardiness, and (almost) deserve to end in tragedy--but for the fact that 16 year olds lack judgment--and her fate, is really her parents fault. And if rescuers lives are lost...

Sunderland had been sailing in 50- to 60-foot seas...

I'll pray for Abby alright, as God is merciful, but, I also pray that her parents and she learn a serious lesson--and that our culture would learn the same.

Risking your life for mere thrills or fame is not admirable, especially where you can put rescuers lives in danger; it is the prerogative of foolishness.

86 posted on 06/10/2010 1:13:19 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: georgiagirl_pam
There's no way a 16 year old is experienced enough to pull something off like this without unspeakable risk.

It's stupid and irresponsible, and the parents are idiots.

87 posted on 06/10/2010 1:19:24 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: RinaseaofDs
So you're saying the problem today is that we don't have more 12 year olds doing life threatening jobs like fighting in wars?

What an idiotic thing to say.

88 posted on 06/10/2010 1:27:10 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: AnalogReigns
There is no courage involved here, as courage is about risking yourself FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S BENEFIT. Attempts such as this are sheer fool-hardiness

Risking your life for mere thrills or fame is not admirable, especially where you can put rescuers lives in danger; it is the prerogative of foolishness


Two great points that are right on target.
89 posted on 06/10/2010 1:41:59 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: ml/nj

So have I. I was just in the car listening to the radio with the station I had on tearing her and her family apart for letting her do this. I had to turn it off. That’s a discussion that will never have an ending. God bless and protect her until she is rescued.


90 posted on 06/10/2010 1:59:01 PM PDT by united1000
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To: united1000; al baby; All

The important thing now is to act, to pray, not to judge.

KNX1070, local radio in SoCal, is following the story and reporting constantly: http://www.knx1070.com/


91 posted on 06/10/2010 2:02:33 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

I have not been to MDR in ages I remember when it was a real marina when you could see across the whole area before all those darn condos high rises etc


92 posted on 06/10/2010 2:05:49 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: GunRunner

Because that’s what this girl was doing - fighting a war, right?

She was sailing, and it wasn’t her first time in a boat either.

Mozart composed the Magic Flute when he was 5. Think he should have received his degree in music first?

Trouble at sea on a sailing yacht can happen to anyone. If she’d have been 18, would you feel better about this? 19? 20? I recovered a yacht sailing close-hauled 300 miles off of California with nobody aboard.

It was owned by a stock-broker who thought he could retire at 41 and single-hand it to Australia as his first offshore cruise. Guaranteed he fell off and the yacht sailed away at 9 knots without him, all because he wasn’t wearing a life vest with an EPIRB, wasn’t strapped in, and thought because he could corner the market, he could sail to Australia.

In my time in the CG, I’ll take the diligence of a sea scout with 5 years experience in sailing off shore with a healthy fear of the sea over a 41 year old adult with way too much money. In fact, we had a sort of law for it - the inverse law of money - the more expensive the boat, the less qualified the master was to pilot it.

And I’m also saying that there is a tremendous amount of luck involved with offshore sailing. Weather and seas change fast. In a sail boat, you are at the mercy of the wind. If you’re under power, you have more options, and you still might get hammered.

We took 56 degree rolls in an icebreaker not 100 miles off Puget Sound. Worst weather of a 7 month circumnavigation of North America - within sight of the beach.

She’s 16. Her parents didn’t buy her a yacht and say, “See you in a year. Send postcards.”

You’ve been conditioned to believe you need someone to declare you ‘qualified’ in order to do anything of substance in life. How long has this girl been practicing prior to her doing this cruise?

You were the one saying that we ought to have more 12 year olds fighting wars, not me.

My point is that people are capable of amazing things at very young ages, and that EVERYONE should have the benefit of being evaluated on their merits regardless of race, gender, creed, OR AGE.

It’s your interpretation that was idiotic. Not my observation.


93 posted on 06/10/2010 2:05:50 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

That was put very well Having boated in So. California my whole life . Id love to know what cutters you were on here I spent a little time on the old Point Bridge out of MDR
They sold it to costa rica


94 posted on 06/10/2010 2:10:35 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: La Enchiladita

I’m with you there. Thanks for the link.


95 posted on 06/10/2010 2:15:07 PM PDT by united1000
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To: al baby

Did you say ‘darn’?!!

lol.


96 posted on 06/10/2010 2:17:17 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

Is darn not a word?


97 posted on 06/10/2010 2:18:56 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: RinaseaofDs
Mozart composed the Magic Flute when he was 5

Let's not get carried away. I certainly would agree that there is nothing wrong with a 16 year-old sailing wherever she wants. It's our stupid education system that warehouses children and treats them as incompetents. But you obviously know nothing about Mozart or his work, and so shouldn't make comments related to him.

ML/NJ

98 posted on 06/10/2010 2:19:13 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: al baby

CGC’s Steadfast (St. Pete, FL), Bear (Boston), Polar Star (Seattle).

Yeah, the Central Americans bought a lot of our old boats, didn’t they? Testament to how well the MK’s, EM’s and BM’s maintained them.

I spent some time on a Honduran patrol boat in 1987. That congressman that got gored by the goat pulled the same stunt that the CO of that boat did with a small deer on one of the islands we spent some quality BBQ time on.

We were lying in hammocks and this deer walks up like it was the family dog and was sniffing and licking. El Capitan grabs both of the antlers and that deer dropped its head and rammed him right in the thigh. Antler went in about three inches.

I laughed my ass off and then we bandaged him up and got him back aboard. He was fine. Good sea story.


99 posted on 06/10/2010 2:22:22 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

Touche!


100 posted on 06/10/2010 2:23:42 PM PDT by united1000
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