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Economic Cluelessness
FrontPage Magazine ^ | 11 June 2010 | Larry Elder

Posted on 06/12/2010 1:39:00 PM PDT by K-oneTexas

While in high school, I was standing at a bus stop next to a gas station. A kid tossed a candy wrapper on the station lot. Somebody yelled, “Hey, pick that up.” The kid, with a straight face, defended himself. He said, “I just created a job.” Someone would be hired, he explained, to pick up the trash, and this would be good for the economy.

Don’t laugh. The kid probably works for the Obama administration.

Congress is now considering yet another “stimulus” package. But did the administration’s previous one work? Of the $787 billion stimulus package, President Obama said it would “save or create” 3.5 million new jobs. Has it?

The National Association for Business Economics polled 68 private-sector members. Seventy-three percent said the employment at their companies was neither higher nor lower as a result of the stimulus package.

What about the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office? A February 2009 Washington Times article said:

“President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

“CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.”

What do normal, regular, real-world people think? In December 2009, a Rasmussen poll asked likely voters whether the “stimulus” helped, hurt or did nothing.

They agreed with the private-sector economists and the CBO — the stimulus did not work. And more felt it did damage than thought it helped: “A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 30 percent of voters nationwide believe the $787-billion economic stimulus plan has helped the economy. However, 38 percent believe that the stimulus plan has hurt the economy. This is the first time since the legislation passed that a plurality has held a negative view of its impact.”

Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and commentator Ed we-need-health-care-reform-and-I-don’t-care-how-much-it-costs Schultz think one way. Believers in the free market and limited government think another. As between these two camps, which one better understands how the real world works?

Zogby International asked questions about economics of nearly 5,000 people. George Mason University economist Dan Klein co-authored a report on the responses given to eight basic economic questions.

(Correct answers and “not sure” responses were ignored — only flatly incorrect responses were counted.) Do housing restrictions increase the price of housing? The answer is yes. Whether the restrictions are good or bad is a separate issue. But restrictions on any good increase the price of that good — whether houses or horseshoes. Do minimum wages increase unemployment? The answer is yes. Whether one accepts this as a worthy trade-off is a separate question. Is our standard of living higher than it was 30 years ago? It is. Whether we are “addicted” to oil or facing cataclysmic “global warming” is a separate issue. The other questions involved licensing, rent control, the definition of a monopoly, the definition of exploitation, and whether free trade leads to unemployment.

Respondents self-identified as progressive/very liberal, liberal, moderate, conservative, very conservative, or libertarian. Who did better?

“On every question,” wrote Klein, “the left did much worse. On the monopoly question, the portion of progressive/very liberals answering incorrectly (31 percent) was more than twice that of conservatives (13 percent) and more than four times that of libertarians (7 percent). On the question about living standards, the portion of progressive/very liberals answering incorrectly (61 percent) was more than four times that of conservatives (13 percent) and almost three times that of libertarians (21 percent).”

Maybe those with more education performed better? No, the report said. “We work with three levels of schooling: (1) high school or less; (2) some college (but not a degree); (3) a college degree or more. In our data, economic enlightenment is not correlated with going to college.”

The left blames the financial collapse on “greed,” ignoring the role played by government involvement — Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae, the Federal Housing Administration, the Community Reinvestment Act and elsewhere. Leftists point to “insufficient regulation” on Wall Street for reckless behavior, rather than to the players’ assumption that too-big-to-fail would protect them.

On the BP Gulf oil spill, Obama wants to find “whose ass to kick.” He’s called for a moratorium on new offshore drilling. But why do we drill offshore for oil more than a mile deep? Is it that on-land and safer, shallow water areas are off-limits — thus pushing companies to extract oil from more dangerous places? Have the restrictions on clean nuclear power altered how and where we obtain energy?

Republicans, in the eight-question economics poll, averaged 1.61 incorrect answers. Democrats averaged 4.59 wrong answers. So in the President’s search for “ass to kick,” start here.


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1 posted on 06/12/2010 1:39:01 PM PDT by K-oneTexas
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To: K-oneTexas

Ah yes. there are all sorts of ways to “create jobs.”

Someone “created a lot of jobs” the other day down our street, shooting bbs at car windows.


2 posted on 06/12/2010 1:40:52 PM PDT by Persevero (If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes?)
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To: K-oneTexas

For a couple of months I posted weekly ‘highlights’ of stimulus spending in the private sector on this site.

A lot of stimulus projects were roads, buildings and park upkeep. So if you knew your asphalt, could weld or put a picnic table together I suppose you may have seen a stimulating week or two last year - other than that - not so much....

Oh, and 5 Billion went to drug companies for immunization shots, so I guess if you are a school nurse it kept you busy for a while.

Stimulating.....Not


3 posted on 06/12/2010 2:14:08 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: K-oneTexas
"...Obama wants to find “whose ass to kick.”

"Go to your room and spank yourself." Noted intellectual, Homer Simpson.

4 posted on 06/12/2010 2:18:31 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: K-oneTexas

I was kind of hoping that the anecdote would continue, with:

“I told you to pick that up, you little **********!”

“Owowowowowowowow! Let go of my hair, man!”

“Pick it up! Now!”

“Alright, alright! I’m picking it up!”

“NOW EAT IT!”

“What?! Owowowowowow! Okaaaaay! Mmmmmph.”

“Now git your pimply little butt off my filling station! Git!”


5 posted on 06/12/2010 5:32:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: K-oneTexas

Same scene in that very wonderful movie

The Fifth ELement

Gary Oldman

good strong conservative


6 posted on 06/12/2010 5:50:26 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Persevero
Someone “created a lot of jobs” the other day down our street, shooting bbs at car windows.

An absolutely literal example of Bastiat's "Fallacy of the broken window."

7 posted on 06/12/2010 7:48:18 PM PDT by Erasmus (Looks like we're between a lithic outcropping and a region of low compressibility.)
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To: Erasmus

“An absolutely literal example of Bastiat’s “Fallacy of the broken window.” “

Yes, I was going to cite that, but I couldn’t remember who wrote it. Thanks for the reminder.


8 posted on 06/13/2010 3:16:47 PM PDT by Persevero (Replace Howard Dean with Alvin Greene!)
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To: K-oneTexas; bamahead; traviskicks; freepatriot32; Libertarian Nationalist GOPr; MikeHu; ...

Zogby International asked questions about economics of nearly 5,000 people. George Mason University economist Dan Klein co-authored a report on the responses given to eight basic economic questions.

(Correct answers and “not sure” responses were ignored — only flatly incorrect responses were counted.) Do housing restrictions increase the price of housing? The answer is yes. Whether the restrictions are good or bad is a separate issue. But restrictions on any good increase the price of that good — whether houses or horseshoes. Do minimum wages increase unemployment? The answer is yes. Whether one accepts this as a worthy trade-off is a separate question. Is our standard of living higher than it was 30 years ago? It is. Whether we are “addicted” to oil or facing cataclysmic “global warming” is a separate issue. The other questions involved licensing, rent control, the definition of a monopoly, the definition of exploitation, and whether free trade leads to unemployment.

Respondents self-identified as progressive/very liberal, liberal, moderate, conservative, very conservative, or libertarian. Who did better?

“On every question,” wrote Klein, “the left did much worse. On the monopoly question, the portion of progressive/very liberals answering incorrectly (31 percent) was more than twice that of conservatives (13 percent) and more than four times that of libertarians (7 percent). On the question about living standards, the portion of progressive/very liberals answering incorrectly (61 percent) was more than four times that of conservatives (13 percent) and almost three times that of libertarians (21 percent).”


9 posted on 06/17/2010 8:02:55 PM PDT by FreeKeys (Letting ignorant folks vote is like giving a hammer to a toddler. Or a nuclear weapon to a nutcase.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009; neverdem
The Fifth ELement

I taped it when it was shown on TV many years ago. Being the smarta$$ dad that I am, and since I was teaching my kids the periodic table at the time, I of course labeled the cassette simply "Boron", natch.

10 posted on 06/17/2010 8:12:47 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("You can fix ignorant. You can't fix stupid."-NB "Against stupidity the very Gods fight in vain."-FS)
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To: FreeKeys

Wow

a Dad who teaches the Periodic Table

Plz come to my house sometime and teach my boys ...

I try but ...

Did you mean to say you don’t like The Fifth Element?

Sorry. I like it, I like Jean Luc Besson

and I like that great quiet patriot Bruce WIllis

and Milla did a wonderful job

as did Ruby Rod

Hell I even like the North African chase scene music ... and The Diva ;

As it is a work of art I guess / am sure / each viewer will have his own opinion .........................


11 posted on 06/17/2010 9:38:33 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I liked it. I was only talking about the title.


12 posted on 06/18/2010 8:06:09 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Move your fat ass, Henry, but slowly or you'll swamp the boat."-Washington to Col.Knox, 12/25/1776)
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