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To: SatinDoll

Satin Doll, I do believe that there is actually only two types of citizenship.

1. Natural born : both parents U.S. Citizens
2. Naturalized: any citizen granted citizenship by statue( immigration law)
a. immigrants who have naturalized
b. native born to immigrants who are not yet citizens
c. native born to one parent who is a citizen and the
other a foreign national
Under the current laws obama would be a native born(assuming that he was born in Hawaii) naturalized citizen and ineligible to be President. obama knows this , that is the reason he is surpressing all his birth information.
If a person could get a CERTIFIED copy of his BIRTH CERTIFICATE into court he could be removed from office.


59 posted on 06/13/2010 7:36:48 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn

The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three kinds/types of citizenship.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

There are statutes concerning children born overseas to parents who are citizens, including the citizenship status of those born in Panama.

Panama has never been a U.S. Territory and the U.S.A. had administrative control only over the Cana Zone. The Canal Zone was never a part of the U.S. nor had the Republic of Panama ceded territory. So, that being the case, there are legal statutes dealing with the status of children born there; they’re conisdered Citizens-by-statute (jus sanguinas) and have U.S. citizenship from their parent(s).

Remember, natural born is NOT a kind/type of statutory citizenship as per the Federal Govt. Natural Born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be jus solis AND jus sanguinas - born in the U.S.A. of citizen parents.

I hope the above helps. As I’m sure you can recognize, the implications are that neither McCain nor Obama meet the Natural Born citizen criteria. Both accepted large donations from George Soros (who is rabidly anti-Constitutional) before the last national election in 2008.


63 posted on 06/13/2010 1:21:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: omegadawn

Satin Doll, I do believe that there is actually only two types of citizenship.

1. Natural born : both parents U.S. Citizens
2. Naturalized: any citizen granted citizenship by statue( immigration law)
a. immigrants who have naturalized
b. native born to immigrants who are not yet citizens
c. native born to one parent who is a citizen and the
other a foreign national
Under the current laws obama would be a native born(assuming that he was born in Hawaii) naturalized citizen and ineligible to be President. obama knows this , that is the reason he is surpressing all his birth information.
If a person could get a CERTIFIED copy of his BIRTH CERTIFICATE into court he could be removed from office.


Obama wrote a book back in 1995 called “Dreams From My Father” which discusses his father’s foreign birth in great detail. Even on Obama’s internet posted copy of his Certification Of Live Birth, his father’s race is listed as “African.”

Obama’s original birth records can be subpoenaed without Obama’s permission in accordance with Hawaii Statutues 338-18(b))(point 9) to “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;”

However there is no additional information on a 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate from what is on a computerized print out short form COLB that is relevant to being Constitutionally eligible to be president.

Here’s a link to current US Citizenship Law:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html


64 posted on 06/13/2010 1:33:32 PM PDT by jamese777
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