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Jesus Statue Destroyed by Fire (Lightning!)
Middletown Journel ^ | June 15, 2010 | Tiffany Y. Latta and Lauren Pack

Posted on 06/15/2010 5:36:10 AM PDT by DouglasKC

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To: DouglasKC

Heywood Banks: “Big Butter Jesus”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-ksuOaI61g


41 posted on 06/15/2010 7:54:57 AM PDT by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: TheGeezer

You know what happened to the serpent that Moses built don’t you?


42 posted on 06/15/2010 8:11:22 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Hezekiah broke it up after the Israelites offered it sacrifices.

Images used as an aid to worship, as inspiration, must never become objects of worship. There is a difference.

43 posted on 06/15/2010 8:48:34 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: TheGeezer; ExGeeEye; ForAmerica
The serpent was a type of Jesus Christ Absolutely true. Which simply illustrates the point that images may be used in worship of God, but images must never be worshipped.

I'm not sure that's the intent (or the extent) of the commandment:

Exo 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Exo 20:5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,

Taken by itself it could seem to be only a prohibition against worshipping the image itself. But in the larger context it's a different story:

Deu 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.
Deu 4:14 And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that you might observe them in the land which you cross over to possess.
Deu 4:15 "Take careful heed to yourselves, for you saw no form when the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire,
Deu 4:16 lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female,
Deu 4:17 the likeness of any animal that is on the earth or the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air,
Deu 4:18 the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground or the likeness of any fish that is in the water beneath the earth.

Now from verses 15 and 16 it would seem clear that an image of a man who is supposed to represent God on earth is something that God does not want. And sure people don't claim to worship a statue on the side of the road...but that statue MAY or MAY not represent the true earthly image of Jesus Christ. Suppose it's a spitting image of Judas? I think that's partly the reason for the commandment.

44 posted on 06/15/2010 8:49:57 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: TheGeezer

How often do you think they do become so? More importantly, why do we need aids to worship?


45 posted on 06/15/2010 9:00:00 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Arlis
Amen... God's prohibition against man making any images of Himself BECAUSE IT IS SIN, also applies to protestants as well and by the way... "Jesus" was not on fire; a false representation of Jesus burned to the ground, having been destroyed by God Himself leaving nothing but an ugly metal shell, indicating the folly of man and what God thought of their idolatry.

The big question is this: will their "pastor" finally get the message, OBEY GOD and His Word and put a stop to their idolatry or will he foolishly persist in perpetuating the "church's" sin?

46 posted on 06/15/2010 9:14:10 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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47 posted on 06/15/2010 9:25:16 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: TheGeezer

It never fails to amaze me how very many otherwise intelligent FReepers can’t even begin to grasp that not-so-subtle difference.


48 posted on 06/15/2010 10:20:01 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

and the icon is still standing!!!!!!

49 posted on 06/15/2010 10:32:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

ZOT!

50 posted on 06/15/2010 10:36:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Some one figure out what Roy Sullivan is doing wrong to get hit seven times. And why can't The Lord finish the job? In the end, only Roy Sullivan could kill Roy Sullivan.


51 posted on 06/15/2010 10:44:09 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Vaquero

Yeah, they rebuild it every time it gets hit. Amazing.


52 posted on 06/15/2010 10:55:31 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: netmilsmom

You just don’t know how to follow orders, do you?


53 posted on 06/15/2010 11:05:26 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: DouglasKC
Deu 4:15 "Take careful heed to yourselves, for you saw no form when the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire,

Deu 4:16 lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female,

"Careful heed" is an admonishment to be careful not to allow images to become idols, not an outright commandment outlawing images that inspire reverence or awe.
And sure people don't claim to worship a statue on the side of the road...but that statue MAY or MAY not represent the true earthly image of Jesus Christ. Suppose it's a spitting image of Judas? I think that's partly the reason for the commandment.
So what if a statue is the spitting image of Judas? The statue has no power to affect the supplicant's intent, meaning, or earnestness. It is merely an instrument assisting in the effort to keep one's mind on the Lord while in prayer. The statue itself has no power to affect anything.

Finally, why would God issue a commandment, and then order Moses to disobey Him when He instructed Moses to place graven angels on the Ark? His command applies to use of the images, not merely having images.

54 posted on 06/15/2010 11:24:49 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Heck he hit Martha Stewart 3 times and she’s still around.


55 posted on 06/15/2010 11:29:00 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: RoadTest

>>You just don’t know how to follow orders, do you?<<

Sure do. But I get my orders in the context in which they are written.

I have no problem with decoys or pictures of my Grandmother. Sorry you do.


56 posted on 06/15/2010 11:45:48 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The 2010 restoration, carried out by mining company Vale in partnership with the Archdiocese, focused on the statue itself. The statue’s internal structure was renovated and its soapstone mosaic covering was restored by removing a crust of fungi and other microorganisms and repairing small cracks. The lightning rods located in the statue’s head and arms were also repaired.

Maintenance work needs to be conducted periodically due to the strong winds and rain to which the statue is exposed.

57 posted on 06/15/2010 12:38:58 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: DouglasKC
Film at 11: Atheists, Agnostics, and Muslim Jihadists take delight. < / sarc
58 posted on 06/15/2010 12:39:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: TheGeezer

Oops, sorry. I thought you meant Noah’s.


59 posted on 06/15/2010 12:41:40 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Palin/Undecided 2012...make that Palin/Whoever She Picks...)
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To: netmilsmom

No. I’m not your judge. You won’t smart mouth Him when the time comes.


60 posted on 06/15/2010 1:57:12 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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