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Gresham Barrett Aide Pushes Story On Nikki Haley's Religious Views
The Weekly Standar ^ | 6/15/10 | William Kristol

Posted on 06/15/2010 10:01:31 AM PDT by redk

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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

You point out the precise falsehoods in specific posts by number, and I will point out the truth.


81 posted on 06/16/2010 5:01:06 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: upchuck

I know 5 votes Nikki can count on this coming Tuesday! If Barrett was any kind of decent man he would have bowed out of a run-off. Now Nikki has had to waste resources she could have used to fight Sheheen.


82 posted on 06/16/2010 5:27:38 AM PDT by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691; Clintonfatigued; upchuck; fieldmarshaldj
How exactly does it reflect badly?

Barrett's Subtext: "Der maybe she's not REALLY a Christian (and maybe because of that you should vote for me instead!)."

That's pathetic. The idiot should stick to the issues.

83 posted on 06/16/2010 9:35:15 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: MBB1984

You’ve been caught and now want to change the subject. You raised questions about her faith that she has already answered as well as they can be answered and only God knows the truth. You did this to keep doubts alive.

Romans 14:10
You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.

What you are doing is a sin.


84 posted on 06/16/2010 4:17:55 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Actually, you continue to fail to point the false statements. And, I understand why, because they are not there.

Regarding judging, I find it amusingly ironic that you are judging my motives for questioning Ms. Haley. If what I am doing is a sin, you are at least as equally culpable. With all due respect, you are judging me.

I believe I am justified in questioning actions of a political candidate. Yes, Ms. Haley may have answered questions. But, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter also answered questions concerning their faith. I do not take the words of any politician at face value. I also look at the communication through their deeds.

Political candidates should be questioned and evaluated. The CNN article mentioned that she took her children to a Sikh temple and the Methodist church. I have heard from others in the greater Lexington area that corroborated this point. I do not know if she still does, but this troubles me if true. I am troubled by her attending the Sikh temple even if only one or two times a year. I also am troubled by the change in her website concerning God. It went from an amorphous, ambiguous statement statement to one mentioning Christ frequently. While I hope the new statement truthfully reflects Ms. Haley's position, I am concerned why the old statement was there originally. I am also concerned about the timing. I am also troubled that she attends a United Methodist Church a very liberal denomination which I disagree with on most issues.

I Thess 5:21 states “Test everything that is said. Hold on to what is good.” Matthew 7 says just as you can identify a tree by its fruit so you can identify people by their actions. I John 4:1 states “Dear Friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God (or the devil). For there are many false prophets in the world.

It is not sin to raise important questions and to test what is said and evaluate actions of a politician to try to discern the truth.

85 posted on 06/17/2010 5:51:22 AM PDT by MBB1984
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So not only do you raise false questions but now you quote the Bible out of context. From your own verses:

1 Thessalonians 5:
16Be joyful always; 17pray continually; 18give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.

19Do not put out the Spirit’s fire; 20do not treat prophecies with contempt. 21Test everything. Hold on to the good. 22Avoid every kind of evil.

23May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24The one who calls you is faithful and he will do it.

25Brothers, pray for us. 26Greet all the brothers with a holy kiss. 27I charge you before the Lord to have this letter read to all the brothers.

You should great Haley with a kiss and not like a snake in the grass.

Mathew 7:
1”Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

That is about as clear as it can be. You should not be judging her faith. She has said she’s a Christian and her children have been baptized. If she is lying, there’s no way for you to tell.

1 John 4:
1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Again, she acknowledges Jesus and God.

Now stop it.


86 posted on 06/17/2010 3:04:33 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
My verses are precisely in context and to say otherwise is disingenuous. By the way, you conveniently left out the remainder of Matthew 7.

Just because an individual says they are a Christian does not make someone a Christian. James makes this clear:

You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?

Many politicians claim to be Christians for opportunistic reasons. Some are genuine. If you can find a direct quote where Ms. Haley precisely says that Christ is the Lord of her life, I will give her the benefit of the doubt on this issue.

87 posted on 06/18/2010 9:32:22 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984

You can call me what you want. I think you are doing the Devil’s work.

I don’t search for quotes for someone doing evil work. They’re out there. Find them yourself.


88 posted on 06/18/2010 6:20:07 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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