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1 posted on 06/19/2010 12:10:07 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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I am I understanding correctly that Djou favors using the United States military as a petri dish for social engineering experiments? ..That he endorses homos kissing in the barracks and the multitude of JAG and CIS prosecutions for “hate crimes” that are certain to follow?

God help America...
Can this pantload be replaced in November?


2 posted on 06/19/2010 12:24:15 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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That’s cool. I’ve been in the Army for 12 years, been to two wars, have a batch of shiny medals and badges, have experience in Infantry combat on the ground and a look from higher level on how those elements communicate and coordinate using the latest digital systems.

I’ll likely be getting out when my current obligation is up. The Army and the government can have their faggots. I got better places to be.


5 posted on 06/19/2010 12:34:21 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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It’s not really DADT that’s the problem.

Here’s the problem, from my POV...

An “out” gay in the unit may or may not be a problem for unit cohesion, esprit de corps, and other aspects of military order. On my CG cutter there was a guy who was pretty light in his loafers, and we all pretty much figured he was batting for the other team. But he was good at his job and nobody really cared. It didn’t matter much in his case.. But even so... military units are NOT the place for social experiments. They exist to kill people and break things. Nothing else matters. No further energy should be spent on the topic.

A “closeted” gay, though, is another matter altogether. And it remains a problem with or without “DADT”. A closeted gay is an *enormous* security risk. They are the ones that will be turned as an agent, in order for their secret not to come out. A closeted gay in the military, say, with a wife and kids... and his career, would probably do *anything* to keep that secret from wiping out his whole world. That’s who every Intel manual in the world tells their operators to work on to “turn”. Ours too.


6 posted on 06/19/2010 12:49:12 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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Well, then I expect the Congressman to sponsor a bill stating that upon the repeal of DADT anyone who thinks they can’t comply can just cut their enlistment short and go home.

I wonder how many will be left? Because we all know liberal and hollywood types will take up the slack, right? Or in the words of another leftist, enlistment will swell because all those gays who have been dying to be in the miitary will suddenly rush to sign up.

Geez. How do all these stupid people get elected. I know, I know. Stupid people vote for them.


8 posted on 06/19/2010 1:50:19 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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And they won’t be. Estimates are that about 10% will quit because of the change in policy. I think the number will be higher. I have no idea how it will affect recruiting but it won’t be positive.


9 posted on 06/19/2010 3:44:19 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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So Djou’s own words show us that he is as authoritarian as any leftist, and that he has an inexplicable inclination to defend homosexuality in the military.


10 posted on 06/19/2010 4:02:12 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:16))
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Did anyone see this coming? Did he give any signs that he would turn on the conservative base after he won election? If not, then he needs to be recalled and made to answer for his dishonesty.


18 posted on 06/19/2010 6:12:35 AM PDT by ducttape45
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The military has an opportunity to stop DADT dead in its tracks. It’s the Courtmartial of LTC Lakin. If they grant Discovery and allow LTC Lakin access to the evidence, then DADT is history — as well as the Usurper in the Oval Office.


19 posted on 06/19/2010 6:29:16 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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He’s right about one thing — if they do decide to repeal the law, and they do put open gays in the military, soldiers who cannot defend those gay soldiers should leave the military.

No matter how stupid the choices of the leadership, so long as they are not illegal, soldiers are expected to follow orders. A soldier who cannot obey an order to fight side-by-side with a gay soldier would have to leave the force.

If they do repeal DADT, they should at least include in the repeal a blanket honorable discharge with pension for soldiers who cannot serve with open gays.

On the other hand, he should never have voted to support the actual repeal. Of course, they didn’t need his vote, and either democrat would have voted the same way.


20 posted on 06/19/2010 6:52:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Is Charles Djou going to put himself at the front of a combat zone?

Is Djou going to say what he has alone among our military servicemen and women?

Djou is probably for re-instituting the draft....=.=

Djou is an idiot.


23 posted on 06/19/2010 7:17:24 AM PDT by cranked
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society is self adjusting, alot of these feakshow legislators need adjusted


24 posted on 06/19/2010 7:23:27 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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Problem is, there WILL be a lot of people who “vote with their feet.” Is the loopy left doing this by intent or accident? Something tells my Spidey-sense that this is most definitely with intent.


25 posted on 06/19/2010 8:15:57 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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Is he on the Djou-low?

Urban dictionary:Down Low

27 posted on 06/19/2010 8:22:36 AM PDT by csvset
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So, will those soldiers that don’t believe in the gay agenda be given a free “honorable discharge” from the military? I doubt it because there would be a pretty large number of soldiers leaving if that were the case.


30 posted on 06/19/2010 8:40:49 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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I agree with him. If you don’t want to see homosexual snuggling in your barracks, you should be allowed to leave the military immediately with a full honorable discharge, because the service memeber served with honor—its the military brass and civilian “leadership” that decided to be dishonorable. Let the gays go fight and die in our wars, as they claim they want to do. When we can’t meet recruitment quotas, draft the gays! It will be their military, so let’s make them all step up to the plate!


33 posted on 06/19/2010 8:51:36 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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I think Djou's vote was horrible.

That being said, this headline is inaccurate and is not representative of what Djou's remarks were.

38 posted on 06/19/2010 9:29:13 AM PDT by what's up
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I spent three years in a Catholic Seminary that had a bunch of homosexuals in residence. I can tell you that getting into a community shower with a bunch of known homosexuals leering at you, making comments, is unnerving. Many potentially good future priests left the seminary because of this problem. I feel sorry for our boys in the military. They have to live in close quarters and they should not be subjected to the same thing I was in the seminary. But you know that in the military environment it will be even worse.


39 posted on 06/19/2010 9:42:36 AM PDT by BealNoortz
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I wonder if he will reconsider this action as Jihad Johnnie is taking his head because there is no one left to protect us?


40 posted on 06/19/2010 10:04:04 AM PDT by jim-x (You cannot protect people from themselves.)
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So Djou is another POS RINO. The title is misleading; he WANTS sexual perverts in the US military and not only that, anyone who doesn't like it should leave! He's truly a sickening idiot.

The Republican party needs a purge to get rid of RINOs. But because there are so many in the upper echelons, a purge won't happen; what is needed is a knock-down drag out fight between the actual conservatives/constitutionalists and the elite snob power-mad leftist phony Rs.

We will win when that happens, and they will lose. Needs to happen soon. Maybe November will help.

42 posted on 06/19/2010 10:37:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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and who is he to determine who should and should not be in the military?


49 posted on 06/19/2010 10:54:01 AM PDT by EDINVA
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