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Jones Act not hampering Gulf clean up
Marinelog.com ^ | June 12, 2010 | marinelog.com

Posted on 06/19/2010 9:44:32 PM PDT by capt.P

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Sort of a Capt. Obvious post to people employed in the marine trades or in the oil industry, but there's a lot of intellectual masturbation going on out here in this subject. Thought I'd share a little truth on what's happening in the real world.
1 posted on 06/19/2010 9:44:33 PM PDT by capt.P
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Well that’s comforting to know. I mean, the clean-up is going so well...

:eyes roll:


2 posted on 06/19/2010 9:48:29 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: capt.P

So the questions is are there enough skimmers out there doing the job or do we need more. I would think we need all we can get.


3 posted on 06/19/2010 9:51:23 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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So, it’s just because the present administration itself won’t allow/accept the expertise and equipment offered.


4 posted on 06/19/2010 9:51:45 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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If there are more skimmers out there that aren’t working they should be..regardless of flag. We aren’t talking about ordinary vessels but specialized skimmers..


5 posted on 06/19/2010 9:52:50 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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That doesn’t mean the Zer0 admin didn’t use the act as an excuse...


6 posted on 06/19/2010 9:53:59 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: capt.P

The American Maritime Industry has nothing to do with the situation - O-Dumb-oh refused to waive the Jones Act; it’s up to him, not the farging American Maritime Industry. As a consequence of the Messiah’s divine guidance, European countries which have skimmers were prevented from providing aid.

There oughta be a filter against shills on FR. There are way too many dumbocrats out plying the internet waters!


7 posted on 06/19/2010 9:54:17 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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I thought the Dutch had specialty ships that we don’t have.


8 posted on 06/19/2010 9:55:09 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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So the reason why 0 turned down the offered help had nothing to do with the Jones Act?

Anyway thanks for the info.

9 posted on 06/19/2010 9:55:36 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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Since US ships are getting up every drop of the spill.....


10 posted on 06/19/2010 9:55:38 PM PDT by eddie willers
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OMSA is a labor organization and not to be taken as a credible source. They are being dishonest by focussing on the Jones Act, because the Jones Act is only one of many cabotage laws which govern coastal shipping activities.

If you want to buy into the union thug story, be my guest. These a-holes are lying.

11 posted on 06/19/2010 9:57:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Some of the foreign vessels are better equipped to complete certain aspects of the clean up than US ships. I am sure we will use American vessels when the jobs call for it...but what is wrong with help to sped up the process and borrow on a little expertise in some areas we are not familiar with?
12 posted on 06/19/2010 9:57:48 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: hinckley buzzard

In other words, it’s a CYA move for Obama and the unions!


13 posted on 06/19/2010 9:59:48 PM PDT by princeofdarkness ("Obama Lied. Liberty, Morality, and Prosperity Died.")
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http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/06/breaking-obama-administration-only-accepted-help-from-5-countries-out-of-28-that-offered-assistance/

As the Gulf Coast shores continue to be coated with crude, the Obama Administration has only accepted assistance from 5 countries out of 28 who offered to assist the US with the cleanup.

And there’s lots of skimmers and boom on that list that are “under consideration”


14 posted on 06/19/2010 10:00:24 PM PDT by digger48
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We should be using, or negotiating to use, every capable vessel to contain and control the spill regardless of the flag it flies under.

The idea that there are sufficient US flag vessels to contain the spill is ludicrous on the face of it because if that were true, there would be no oil washing up on American shores.

I am not sure exactly what is going on here, but I am sure that this article is more self-serving than not.


15 posted on 06/19/2010 10:00:41 PM PDT by Ronin
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I have never heard of this magazine, so I checked the info at the site:

http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/2hist.html

A long history.

Some here are saying that because there is some union connection this is all automatically suspect, but it seems to me the point of the piece you posted is that the Jones Act ISN'T preventing the use of foreign vessels.

If that's true, I don't see how this is some "CYA" article for "The Unions". What it seems to be saying is that Obama has no excuse for using any foreign vessels.

If this is the case, this is good information to know, and thanks for posting it.

16 posted on 06/19/2010 10:11:41 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
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Thanks,

I’m not sure what unions anyone would be talking about. Unions don’t cover oil rigs, and the Gulf Of Mexico has no union mariners, beyond the boats that transit from the east and west coasts. Small boats don’t do much union work.


17 posted on 06/19/2010 10:16:59 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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Actually, it does, since the Maritime Administration is made up of the mariners who do the work that is needed here.
You should read the article. L0bama has nothing to do with this. He was busy getting his balls washed on the putting green with his pet mongoloid Biden.


18 posted on 06/19/2010 10:22:05 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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Wow, I donno what planet you’re talking about, but here in the US, OMSA is an industry association. They have nothing to do with labor. You should get out of mom’s basement more.


19 posted on 06/19/2010 10:23:50 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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Parley Baer, you’ve hit the nail on the head. The fact is, however, that no one is going to operate a workboat until they can get paid to do so. I think that people have this idea that we’ve got the ability to vacuum up every drop of oil out there- even when we’ve got the equipment to do the job, response vessels are exceptionally unreliable and inefficient at what they do... though they’re all we’ve got.
For some odd reason, everyone assumes that the Europeans have magic boats that can take in oil and expel sunshine and farts- the dutch have some good stuff, SMIT, especially, but since they’ve got an American branch, that technology is already here.
Anyways, I don’t want to sound like an apologist- I’m pretty sure that there aren’t too many other actual tanker captains who comment here, so I thought I’d post something based on what’s really happening, as opposed to the excited shit flinging that sometimes happens here.


20 posted on 06/19/2010 10:32:38 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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