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Texas GOP platform: criminalize gay marriage and ban sodomy, outlaw strip clubs and pornography
New York Daily News ^ | June 23, 2010 | Aliyah Shahid

Posted on 06/23/2010 8:37:50 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure; little jeremiah
Yes we cannot trust individuals to decide for themselves about sex!

Yup! Because they will chose perversion and self-pleasure everytime. No matter who it hurts. No matter who it degrades. No matter what diseases are spread. No matter how many "one night stands" are aborted. No matter how many children have their innocence stolen.

121 posted on 06/24/2010 3:39:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Zakeet

Jeez—that’s not all you’d be missing out on!


122 posted on 06/24/2010 3:42:01 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: little jeremiah

That anarchists WANT anarchy so they can get in power.

Different Forms of Government
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE


123 posted on 06/24/2010 3:42:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Weird Tolkienish Figure; metmom

Odd that the “rights” to sex clubs, porn, sodomy, and abortion were not thought to be in the Constitution until leftists “found” them in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

In the words of Edmund Burke, who was studied by all educated men who helped put our country’s founding documents together:

“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
— Edmund Burke


124 posted on 06/24/2010 3:48:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure; DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah; BykrBayb; trisham; wagglebee

Five pages of posting history in two years?

Interesting.......


125 posted on 06/24/2010 3:50:49 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: little jeremiah; Weird Tolkienish Figure; metmom

He’s right. A people that cannot control their own lusts need to be controlled by something.


126 posted on 06/24/2010 3:52:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure; DirtyHarryY2K; metmom; little jeremiah; xzins; P-Marlowe; trisham; ...
DirtyHarryY2K wrote:

Freedom and liberty were never intended to be a trophy for perversion, degeneracy and moral insanity. Perhaps the "sodomites" should move to France, Spain, Sweden or some other sodomite friendly locale where they grant credence to morally insane perverts and degenerates.

To which you responded:

Close your eyes and you can almost picture a Mudslum saying this.

I don't know how you've escaped my notice for this long troll, but comparing conservatives to Islamofascists will not make you very popular around here.

Free Republic is a CONSERVATIVE forum, not somewhere to promote sodomy.

127 posted on 06/24/2010 4:22:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; metmom

Weird has four or five pages of posting history since 2008. Metmom noted this.


128 posted on 06/24/2010 4:27:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Bellflower

I agree, but lies are lies, regardless of what they contain.

How do we help people if we misreport what the position of the GOP truly is?


129 posted on 06/24/2010 4:30:24 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: little jeremiah; metmom

There a quite a few “sleeper” trolls on FR.


130 posted on 06/24/2010 4:30:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah; wagglebee; metmom

Yes and one of the weird Tolkienish figures were trolls.


131 posted on 06/24/2010 4:34:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Funny thing, the trolls in the LOTR turned to stone if the sunlight hit them. They could only thrive in the dark.


132 posted on 06/24/2010 4:39:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: wagglebee

More Whack-A-Troll needs to be played.


133 posted on 06/24/2010 4:40:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: friendly_doc; Christian_Capitalist; Dr. Eckleburg; Weird Tolkienish Figure; DirtyHarryY2K
Neither my post nor the article you linked was about “public lewdness”, but about the reintroduction of sodomy laws, which criminalise certain sex acts between consenting adults IN PRIVATE.

Various jurisdictions use the "lewd act in a public place"/public indecency ordinances instead of sodomy laws (which were overturned in Lawrence vs Texas), although those ordinances are usually misdemeanors as opposed to a felonious sodomy charge. Lewd act ordinances cover a wide variety of offenses, the act of sodomizing is only one. Also keep in mind that criminal acts are not nullified solely because they are done on private property (the ACLU argued that sex in a public restroom toilet stall is a "private area"). An incestuous relationship done in private will put you in jail as much as one done in public.

Instead of basing our debate on what a wannabe journalist from the New York Daily News wrote, how about we go straight to the source and see what the Texas GOP 2010 Platform says when it comes to the topics at hand:

Marriage Licenses – We support legislation that would make it a felony to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couple and for any civil official to perform a marriage ceremony for such.

Homosexuality – We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.

Texas Sodomy Statutes – We oppose the legalization of sodomy. We demand that Congress exercise its authority granted by the U.S. Constitution to withhold jurisdiction from the federal courts from cases involving sodomy.

Pornography – We urge our governmental bodies to enforce laws regarding all forms of pornography. We urge more stringent legislation to prohibit all pornography including virtual pornography and operation of sexually–oriented businesses. We oppose the sale of “Not Rated” (NR) movies and video games to minors.
Link to TX GOP Platform

Shall we start this debate again based on what the Texas GOP 2010 Platform really says? (I'll give you guys a hint, you'll still be able to "alter" your lovemaking techniques with your wife without the State of Texas kicking in your bedroom door).

134 posted on 06/24/2010 4:42:59 PM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: little jeremiah

First you set the trap and then you bait it, sooner or later they all find it and expose themselves.


135 posted on 06/24/2010 4:43:43 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah
They could only thrive in the dark.

Yes. Interesting that there are so few posts. Maybe the light of FR is too much.

136 posted on 06/24/2010 4:44:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
If a man is not committing one of the Five Great Harms identified in Romans 13:1-10 by the Apostle Paul as grounds for Government prosecution (Murder, Adultery, Theft, Fraud, and/or "covetous" Abuse & Malfeasance), then His Home is His Castle. Period.

You obviously read the Christian libertarian version of the Bible. Here's what the New American Standard Bible says: "For this, "(K)YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT COVET," and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, "(L)YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."
Link to Romans 13

God's laws cover a wide spectrum of sin, and He commands civil government to enforce His laws.

137 posted on 06/24/2010 5:40:07 PM PDT by aSeattleConservative
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To: metmom

Is that a lot?


138 posted on 06/24/2010 5:48:50 PM PDT by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: wagglebee

Who’s promoting sodomy?


139 posted on 06/24/2010 5:50:03 PM PDT by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: Hodar

Ha ha ha ha! Yeah, and they’re getting some really disappointing results from the poll that goes with the story if they were expecting universal vilification of those wascally wepublicans.

Poll Results

Should the Texas GOP endorse a platorm that criminalizes gay marriage and outlaws sodomy?

Yes. It’s the party’s decision. — 50%
No. They are taking it too far. — 49%
I don’t know. — 0%


140 posted on 06/24/2010 6:01:23 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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