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Ignoring city housing codes long enough can lead to demolition (Right or privilege?)
Johnson City (TN) Press ^ | June 27, 2010 | Gary B Gray

Posted on 06/27/2010 4:11:53 AM PDT by don-o

“Owning property is not a right; it’s a privilege,” Pindzola said. “What about the guy who lives next to you? You’re infringing on his rights to live in a decent environment. We have the power to kick someone out of their house. Frankly, we don’t want to kick people out of their homes, nor have we done that.”

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I snipped this from down in the article. I think Mr Pindzola made a poor choice of words. Owning property is neither a right nor a privilege. It is a commercial transaction that the government recognizes. I haven't thought this all the way through, though, and would be interest in Freeper comments
1 posted on 06/27/2010 4:11:56 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
“I’ve been in a home where snakes were crawling on the ceiling,”

I knew people in college who had similar experiences, but once they cut out the drugs, everything got better.

This Pindzola sounds like a typical bureaucrat; the kind of person the US Constitution is supposed to protect Americans from. Hopefully his little empire will be limited to a small area, and the harm he can cause will be minimal.

2 posted on 06/27/2010 4:17:11 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: Bernard
Pindzola is a fool. He needs to read the Constitution. He needs kicked out of whatever loser bureaucratic job he has somehow managed to possess
3 posted on 06/27/2010 4:25:02 AM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) amounts through the internet from all over the world.)
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To: Bernard
A few years ago, I was put on notice that a pile of tires behind my garage was a violation of a specific city ordinance. I did remove them.

I do choose to live in the city. My recourse is to either comply with the laws that I have allowed to be passed, work to change the law, or move our of the city.

My question is about the concept of property ownership. If it is a privilege, it has to be granted (and can be revoked), That does not seem correct to me.

4 posted on 06/27/2010 4:28:22 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: don-o
“Made a poor choice of words” - my rosey red....

I doubt English is his second language.

I have been looking at moving from Florida, my home state since 1949 and where I have lived since 1983 even with a career in the Air Force.

If local minor city officials/bureaucrats think and speak this way in public I have to wonder what they think in the privacy of our offices (they get paid by our taxes don't they?)

5 posted on 06/27/2010 4:32:52 AM PDT by Nip (Islam - a religion of piece (your head and life). Truth depends on the spelling)
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To: don-o

Are snakes capable of crawling on ceilings? They could slither up the walls to an extent but how high? Wouldn’t a snake need suction devices such as are on geckos to be able to crawl across a ceiling? Now, a snake is capable of crawling on the top of a ceiling, but I normally call that the floor of the second story.


6 posted on 06/27/2010 4:36:35 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: don-o

As a resident of post-Katrina New Orleans, I can tell you, that is an issue we have been living with for 5 yrs. now. The house next door to mine has sat empty since the flood. The ordinace right now is as long as the owner has gutted the property and keeps windows and doors boarded and weeds cut, they are in compliance. It is the only house left on the block to either not be renovated or dozed. It sucks! But there is really nothing I can do as owner is in compliance.


7 posted on 06/27/2010 5:00:29 AM PDT by nola61
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Are snakes capable of crawling on ceilings?

Depends on what drug you are using at the time you see them ?


8 posted on 06/27/2010 5:03:28 AM PDT by buck61
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To: buck61

That’s what I thought.


9 posted on 06/27/2010 5:04:18 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: don-o

...I’m not going to get into the whole property rights thing on this...I’ll just say that anybody who’s ever lived in a college town knows what this article is about...’Animal House’ style college rental properties...that eventually get so run down that they’re public nuisances.


10 posted on 06/27/2010 5:08:17 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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> A few years ago, I was put on notice that a pile of tires behind my garage was a violation of a specific city ordinance. I did remove them.

Last year, I was cited by the local government for maintaining a bird feeder in my back yard.


11 posted on 06/27/2010 5:21:37 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Comrade O has to go; FIRE THE SHIFTLESS KENYAN NOW !!!)
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To: don-o

Actually, no... it is a right. It’s the first right in English common law, apon which our constitution is based, a right recognized in the third and fourth amendments as well as the takings clause, and a natural right in Natural Law, the basis of democracy.


12 posted on 06/27/2010 5:30:51 AM PDT by dangus
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I don’t think I could argue with a local government seizing via eminent domain a property that has sincerely gone into such a state of disrepair that it threatens other people or other properties. I would say it is in the city’s interest to raze a property that is a breeding ground for vermin, crime, mold and other things which can pose a problem for the neighborhood.


13 posted on 06/27/2010 5:57:16 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: don-o

Living in small town America where one of the largest employers is a turkey processing plant provides daily examples of the properties described in this article.
A once beautiful little community is now blighted by houses that have been turned into rentals where the illegal immigrants who work in the turnkey plant live. The owners don’t put a penny into the upkeep of the property and the city council refuses to allow code enforcement to be applied to these structures.
It is so bad that even the crawl spaces under the homes are rented out. Men place wooden pallets with bed rolls under the structures and sleep there.
I’m all for knocking the damned things flat when they blight a neighborhood.
Ownership does not negate responsibility.


14 posted on 06/27/2010 6:05:43 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: don-o

Living in small town America where one of the largest employers is a turkey processing plant provides daily examples of the properties described in this article.
A once beautiful little community is now blighted by houses that have been turned into rentals where the illegal immigrants who work in the turnkey plant live. The owners don’t put a penny into the upkeep of the property and the city council refuses to allow code enforcement to be applied to these structures.
It is so bad that even the crawl spaces under the homes are rented out. Men place wooden pallets with bed rolls under the structures and sleep there.
I’m all for knocking the damned things flat when they blight a neighborhood.
Ownership does not negate responsibility.


15 posted on 06/27/2010 6:05:43 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: don-o

They don’t usually take the property, they will demolish at the property owner’s expense, a building that violates code and has become a hazard.


16 posted on 06/27/2010 6:49:09 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Jemian

I just watched some kind of bull snake climb up my outside stucco wall, he got about 5 feet before he lost traction and had to come down. He was only about 2 feet long so maybe a larger snake could go further.


17 posted on 06/27/2010 7:00:30 AM PDT by tiki
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To: don-o
"Owning property is not a right; it’s a privilege,” Pindzola said.

That's EXACTLY what the founding fathers intended.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: That we might grant you the privilege to life, liberty, and the pursuit of political party unity."

18 posted on 06/27/2010 7:05:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: don-o

It is a commercial transaction that the government recognizes.So is banking and we know how that turned out after the government recognized it.


19 posted on 06/27/2010 7:07:18 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: don-o

While owning a particular property is not a right, you have to acquire that right by legal establishment of title to the property, in your name. However, that does not deny the general right to own property, which is a fundamental right.


20 posted on 06/27/2010 9:45:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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