[dfwgator]

That’s just it, we can never know, although the horrible English back line did give a pretty indication of how things probably would have went.

And I must say in the case of John Terry, couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

[dfwgator]

Terry should be used to failure by now:

[manc]

I was amazed how bad Terry played, why on earth was he right up there,
I know England was pushing forward but they should not have been that much up front that early on

Anyway got to go and watch Argentina who I think will win this.