Posted on 06/28/2010 6:41:03 AM PDT by nuconvert
Things are not going very well for Agha Mahmoud. A year after his landslide re-election as President of the Islamic Republic, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is facing what political commentators have long labelled 'the second term blues.'
This particular affliction concerns virtually all those who serve a second term as president. Having won the re-election with the promise of 'the best is yet to come' they quickly realise that this is simply not the case.
Consider a few items with regards to President Ahmadinejad.
He had promised a reconciliation tour that was to take him to 20 of Iran's 30 provinces in a bid to heal the wounds caused by his disputed re-election. The tour was cancelled when it became clear that such an exercise could play into the hands of an opposition movement that refuses to fade away.
Also cancelled was a promised grand gathering of key regime figures to embrace one another and let the bygones be bygones. In fact, a good number of regime grandees still refuse to accept his re-election and do not refer to him as president. Worse still, some of the key organs of the regime cannot hold regular meetings because of the continued dispute over who won last year's election.
Last month, President Ahmadinejad tried to shift attention away from the domestic crisis by announcing the imminent dispatch of a flotilla to defy Israel's blockade of Gaza. This week the entire exercise was cancelled with a terse announcement that 'international configurations' did not favour the sending of the flotilla.
(Excerpt) Read more at aawsat.com ...
Hey Mahmoud...Configure This!
Amir Taheri has more and more become an idiot “moderate Islamist” as his Iranian, Arab and American promoters.
What has he written in this article that makes him sound like islamist?
>>>”What has he written in this article that makes him sound like islamist?”
Do some research. Amir Taheri is known as a moderate Islamist.
BTW, Today, it was reported in the media that Australia deported a so-called “moderate” Iranian Mullah Islamist, who had been residing in Australia for the past 16 yrs, back to Iran. That is/was a good Start. But, he should have never been allowed in Australia in the first place (he obviously came to Australia under a “conservative” Australian government).
I hope Australia, from now on, won’t wait another 16 yrs to kick out ANY Islamist or sympathiser, who works under the pretext of “moderate Islamist”, out of Australia.
Why did he come to Australia, with his so-called Palestinian Scraf around his neck and his fully clad hejab wife & daughter, only to preach in a mosque here, in the first place? He certainly wasn’t persecuted in Iran.
What is your definition of moderate islamist or islamist, for that matter?
One who at least has the courtesy to sharpen the knife they cut off your head with, and at least make it quick and clean.
same definition as yours.
I don’t have a definition for a moderate islamist. You’re either islamist or not. You can’t be a moderate extremist
>>>>”You’re either islamist or not. You can’t be a moderate extremist”
Then deal with your moderate extremist Islamist. And, yes, Amir Taheri is an Islamist with Moderate inclinations. Hence a moderate Islamist.
Islamists are radicals who believe in political islam, want to spread that ideology and want to radicalize other muslims. (in a nutshell)
This is the definition of islamist by writers, educators, politicians, and others who want to warn & rid the civilized world of these radicals.
AFAIK, Amir Taheri is not a radical > therefore he’s not an islamist.
If you have examples of him pushing radical ideology, please present them, I’d be very interested to read that.
Maybe your use of the word islamist was meant in a different way.
>>>>” AFAIK, Amir Taheri is not a radical > therefore he’s not an islamist.”
I never said Amir Taheri was a “radical”. Read my previous comments, am sure you’ve.
Islamism, is an ideology & often an ideology is a very personal matter. Whether one sits in Colorado, or Canada.. you get my meaning, right?
There are moderates, there are extremists. There are also those, the U.S. (regardless of degree of practice of the Islamist ideology i.e. moderate or extremism, classifies as “moderate” or “extremists”). Maybe there are those who are categorised as “moderates” who toe the line with “a given government’s policies” whatever…
The real intention here is quite simple & not for tit for tat, nor for semantics.
It really is very simple: Any one who subscribes to any type of Islamic Ideology is known as an Islamist. The degree of that subscription i.e. “Islamism” and in practice is what is what is known as a “moderate” or “radical” or for the latter “extremist”, “fundamentalist”, and so on… There is no point in wanting to play with words or semantics. It is clear to me, hope what I’ve said is clear to you as well.
“It really is very simple: Any one who subscribes to any type of Islamic Ideology is known as an Islamist.”
That’s where we disagree. And that’s where your definition of islamist is not the same as mine or the same as most people using the word today. An islamist is a radical, and Amir Taheri is not an islamist.
Continuing to use the word islamist when you really mean muslim, is very confusing to others these days.
>>>”Continuing to use the word islamist when you really mean muslim, is very confusing to others these days.”
I know you have your reasons for supporting “Muslims”.
However, you insisting & persisting to coin the term moderate Vs. radical “Muslims” (and all its variations) has been sufficiently confusing to many for the 4 yrs of my knowing you on FR.
After all, it has always been, as you put it, “Muslims” who are the Islamists (along with their foreign supporters such as you), and are the Main & the only prominent religious group who continuously & continually want to leverage on Moderate & Radical nonsense which you have avidly promoted.
Also, very disappointed with you for continously posting articles which, directly or indirectly, promote Islamic Regime Insider Clerics such as Mehdi Karroubi (and Montezari before his death), as well as unrepentent murderers & charlatans such as Mir Hossein Moussavi, but not surprised. Yet you seemingly contradict yourself by posting sympathetic articles about Neda Agha Sultan. I guess most know which side of your bread is buttered.
For the record, try to read the Entire comment in #13, instead of quoting a partial quote out of context.
Why u feel it’s necessary to turn this into a personal attack is beyond me.
I’m not “coining” the term islamist. Someone else did that way before I ever used it.
You called Taheri an islamist. Using that term to describe Taheri was misleading. Apparently you weren’t aware of the meaning of the use of the word islamist these days, ie that the term refers to radicals. That’s all I wanted to straighten out.
Whatever i’ve posted in the past that you don’t like, has nothing to do with this.
If you don’t like Taheri, fine.
If you don’t like me or what I post, fine. But that has nothing to do with whether Taheri is an islamist - which he isn’t.
I’m sure Amir Taheri would have his own words for this prolonged exchange!
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