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Military tradition in Sweden abolished
world news examiner ^ | 7/1/10 | Vickie Wallis

Posted on 07/01/2010 6:55:47 PM PDT by mylife

STOCKHOLM - A 100-year tradition of military conscription, also known as the draft, was abolished today according to the Associated Press.

Sweden, population approximately 9 million with well over 1.5 million in greater Stockholm, has adopted a new policy which means that 'required military service' will only be enacted if the country feels threatened. In peacetime, a voluntary system will be in place with more stringent requirements that must be met in order to join the military. The new system applies to both men and women.

Defense Minister Sten Tolgfors is quoted as saying "Sweden's defense capacity is strengthened by the increased professionalism"

In the last few decades, the percentage of conscripts entering Sweden's military from the population of 18 year-old males has dropped as the government adopted more lenient policies and allowed eligible males to opt out. The compulsory service ranged from 80 to 450 days and was adopted in 1901. The currently active conscripts, numbering approximately 1,700 will be allowed to choose whether to stay in the military or not.

On March 19, 2009 Sweden's government voted to end conscription, setting forth a 'mid-2010' target date to shelve the policy for compulsory military service.

Sweden is a monarchy, Kind Carl XVI Gustaf acceded to the throne in 1973. He is a member of the Bernadotte dynasty which has ruled Sweden since 1818.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conscription; draft; sweden
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To: optiguy

You and me both!


21 posted on 07/01/2010 7:57:59 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: 1rudeboy

OK class, lets review, Swedish KIA:

WWI: 0
WWII: 0
Korea: 0
Vietnam: 0
Iraq: 0
Afghanistan: 4

I salute those four soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice in Afghanistan, but I don’t think that it makes much of a statement about the military contributions of Sweden over the past 100 years.

Your move.


22 posted on 07/01/2010 7:59:26 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: mylife

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...”


23 posted on 07/01/2010 8:01:30 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: mylife
Sweden is a monarchy, Kind Carl XVI Gustaf acceded to the throne in 1973

Now there's a cognomen to strike fear into noöne's heart.

Still it's better than "Erik (IX) the Stuttering and Lame".

But Swedish Kings rarely had impressive nicknames. Bjorn Ironside and Harald Wartooth were about the best.

24 posted on 07/01/2010 8:02:02 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a 16 year old Australian girl already did it. And she did it right. - WWJD)
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To: centurion316
What, are we playing chess? If you seek to diminish the Swedish lives lost in Afghanstan, then put a number on it. Do you want to call it, say, 0.025 Swede to 1.0 American?

Good luck finding allies, genius.

25 posted on 07/01/2010 8:02:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: optiguy

I have here a 22 conversion for full auto HK G3 or HK 91.

Its for sale in excellent condition.


26 posted on 07/01/2010 8:03:08 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

Swedes are smart, rich, beautiful, and cool.

They make the quietest subs in the world, and many of the best artillery and vehicles. Their specialized ammo is also the best in the world.

A very tech-friendly country that is free by any measure.

The Swedish navy helps our navy very much.

Sweden’s chicks (the non-muzzies) are super cute.


27 posted on 07/01/2010 8:03:08 PM PDT by TokuMei
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To: TokuMei

They just passed a law that makes all immigrants need to speak Swedish as well.

I aint rooting for Sweden here. I’m just noting social trends there.


28 posted on 07/01/2010 8:07:06 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

State Slavery finally abolished, welcome to the 20th century


29 posted on 07/01/2010 8:12:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Just say NO to conservativecave.com, it rots your teeth!)
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To: mylife

A 100-year tradition of military conscription,...?

I always thought a traditions were kept by choice by a group of people, not enforced by the government. .


30 posted on 07/01/2010 8:12:35 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Isn't enough always enough?)
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To: GeronL; ThomasThomas

Agreed.


31 posted on 07/01/2010 8:14:05 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: 1rudeboy

You misunderstand my point. I admire the Swedish military, its their government who have chosen to sit on the sidelines while others secured their freedoms and privileged way of life. Besides, if we are keeping score, its more like 0.004 Swed to 1.0 American. And that only counting Afghanistan.


32 posted on 07/01/2010 8:14:30 PM PDT by centurion316
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=166628496#PIC


33 posted on 07/01/2010 8:19:29 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: optiguy

You’ve provided a very interesting post, but I wonder if you didn’t wander on to this thread by mistake. We are talking about Sweden here, not Switzerland. Switzerland is that small landlocked country tucked away in the Alps and best known for banking, watches, and very fine alpine skiing. Sweden sits up on the Baltic sea and is best known for beautiful women and ... beautiful women.


34 posted on 07/01/2010 8:26:17 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
I admire the Finns ;)


35 posted on 07/01/2010 8:29:55 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: centurion316
Found out my old Russian Mosin Nagant was a capture in the Winter War, and was rearsenaled by the Finns.


36 posted on 07/01/2010 8:34:35 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

I’m guessing that you don’t fire that puppy from a standing position.


37 posted on 07/01/2010 8:35:59 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

The Lahti?

Hell NO! Thats a 20mm anti tank gun!


38 posted on 07/01/2010 8:38:06 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: elcid1970
Anyway, hope those fifty-something year old Draken III fighters will continue to secure Swedish airspace.

I believe the Draken's are gone now. As are the Viggens, which were seriously impressive aircraft.

The latest top-of-the line Swedish aircraft is the Gripen: it's an F-5/F-20 sized delta/canard aircraft powered by a single F404 engine (F/A-18s use two of them) license-built by Volvo that is also very impressive. Several countries now using them besides Sweden, including the Czech Republic and South Africa. Brazil is trying to get a navalized version to operate off the Sao Paulo (former Foch of the French Navy).
39 posted on 07/01/2010 8:41:29 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: centurion316
Don't forget the pastry.


40 posted on 07/01/2010 8:46:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Eccl. 10:18 -)
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