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To: driftdiver
Its not a bug its a feature ping.

LOL! That's funny!

Also, I just LOVE the spin from Apple about how there is no problem, they're just showing the bars wrong... Maybe they can explain these following images, then, because it doesn't at ALL corroborate their latest attempt to manage the story:

From Wired Magazine. Lower numbers are better. We see the 3GS was stellar, and did not lose anywhere near equal levels as the iPhone 4.

Also, for the not-as-technically included, dB for RF measurements is a 10 log scale. Meaning a change of 3 dB is a HALVING of value. Going from 9 dB to 24 dB means you lost 97% of your signal strength.

From Gizmodo. Here's the information:

speed test with the phone sitting down, with his hands on the phone, and one with his hands on but with a leather case on it. They're in order, and the one with his hands on the bare phone is really bad times

I'd call zero upload and a 17 second ping time a REALLY bad time. Much more than going from 5 bars to 1 bar would indicate.

Apple's trying to weasel out by changing the way they show bars, and hope that the public buys the message (which it probably will, because it's Apple after all). But the actual hard-core measurements PROVE there is a problem, and it's NOT related to the way antenna strength is shown. It's an actual, real-world problem.

This kind of technical data will kill Apple in a lawsuit. You cannot answer it with just "we showed bars wrong". It proves at a physical level that the iPhone 4 has significant reception problems if you just hold your phone in the left hand.

34 posted on 07/02/2010 10:22:04 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; for-q-clinton; driftdiver
Also, for the not-as-technically included, dB for RF measurements is a 10 log scale. Meaning a change of 3 dB is a HALVING of value. Going from 9 dB to 24 dB means you lost 97% of your signal strength.

For the not-as-technically included (sic), dB attenuation is relative to a signal, not an absolute measurement. A higher dB attenuation doesn't necessarily mean a lower signal if you are starting with a higher signal strength in the first place.

35 posted on 07/02/2010 12:56:23 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; antiRepublicrat

For the actual relationship between decibels and signals, including what antiRepublicrat wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel


37 posted on 07/02/2010 3:40:41 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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