[Siena Dreaming]

Bill Clinton wouldn’t have shoved Obamacare down our throats at the expense of his popularity

You forget that he and his wife tried as hard as they could to get Hillary-care.

The only reason the Clintons backed off on a hard-line approach similar to Obama's was the Repub takeover in '94.

Their ideology is the same as Obama's. The "legacy" emphasis came later after impeachment.

[SnakeDoctor]

I didn’t forget Hillarycare. They gave up on Hillarycare after it was defeated. Obamacare was defeated via the election of Scott Brown ... and they used reconciliation to ram it through anyway.

Clinton backed off when he lost. Obama used the process to circumvent the American people when he lost.

Their ideology is the same — but the Clintons are more pragmatic and image-conscious.

SnakeDoc