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White House Enacts Rules Inhibiting Media From Covering Oil Spill
Newsbusters ^ | 7/3/10 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 07/03/2010 9:03:54 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Someone is lying. Can career Coast Guard call out the lies?

The order came from the local coast guard in accordance with standard regulations. It really is not a big deal. What lies?

Adm Allan stated "the media will have uninhibited access anywhere we're doing operations, except for two things, if it's a security or a safety problem." Boats within 65ft of working operations is a safety problem. A big safety problem. If you don't understand that, well don't mess with it.

201 posted on 07/04/2010 5:05:10 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
this edict came from Thad Allen

No edict came from Thad Allen. He is retired an has no authority to issue edicts on behalf of the Coast Guard.

the amount of skimmers being reported (by the Feds) on paper IS NOT what we have in our waters.” Same sentiments with the boom. Someone is lying

You can count skimmers and booms from 65ft.

202 posted on 07/04/2010 5:11:54 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

I agree with what you say about interference, what I’m talking about is someone going somewhere where is a natural danger, and not interfering with whatever is going on with work.

In other words, you want to film the oil soaked cranes and flamingos go ahead.

I’m getting also the impression that this whole thing is a greenpeace concoction to embarrass the administration, BP etc.

I heard this fuzzy headed liberal the other day saying that all the clean up workers on the Exxon Valdez are dead. What happy hor*e shit that is....


203 posted on 07/04/2010 5:29:07 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Praying for minus 24 today....at least minus 23...)
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To: AndyJackson

Thad Allen is the Obama appointee to oversee the Gulf clean up. Let me repeat, Obama appointee.

Who’s lying? Why would the Parish Presidents lie? What do they have to gain? Why would the Feds lie? What would they have to gain? A lot.

I’ll ask again. Did you watch the video?


204 posted on 07/04/2010 5:32:39 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( (((((((((((((((((((PALIN/BACHMANN 2012))))))))))))))))))))
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To: Sub-Driver

With todays HD technology you can see the dimples on a golf ball, and count the laces on a football from more than 65’ away. Get a zoom lens, man!


205 posted on 07/04/2010 5:38:17 AM PDT by liberateUS
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To: AndyJackson

And, actually, regarding counting the boom and skimmers from 65 feet..mthat would be true on shoreline, but a lot of this is in marshes, inlets, estuaries where no access at all is being given. Its not standing on a beach with binoculars (or a zoom lens). Even aerial photography is banned (no fly zones are still in effect). So any visual information is basically at the “benevelence’ of the Regime.

That’s not troubling to you?


206 posted on 07/04/2010 5:38:26 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( (((((((((((((((((((PALIN/BACHMANN 2012))))))))))))))))))))
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
I watched the video, and I have to say that there are few things I have seen that rise to that level of hyperventillated hysteria. Someone should have the smelling salts ready for when poor Cooper-girl faints because it is all too much for him.

Who lied? Well, I don't know that anyone is lying. We all know what happened, and we all know it is a mess, and we all know that this administration is not exactly helping things along. But a 65ft standoff distance is not exactly going to enable a coverup here.

207 posted on 07/04/2010 5:41:53 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
a lot of this is in marshes, inlets, estuaries where no access at all is being given

My comments pertain to a 65ft. restriction on navigable waters, not any sort of areal access denial, of which I was unaware. If that is Cooper's point, he should have made it, made it straight, and made it like a man, and not a whiny little brat who didn't get more than his fair turn on the tricycle.

208 posted on 07/04/2010 6:00:04 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Sub-Driver
Meanwhile...

Jones Act: Someone Is Lying About Gulf Oil Spill

209 posted on 07/04/2010 6:13:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m posting without reading yet...but I do want to say there has been problems with booms being cut by boat propellers and clean up disrupting wakes created by recreational looky loos.


210 posted on 07/04/2010 6:15:01 AM PDT by sweet_diane (Someone, please... just plug the darn hole!)
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To: mewzilla
Excellent summation here....

Obama’s deliberate Katrina

211 posted on 07/04/2010 6:15:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: sweet_diane

Color me curious. If the press can’t get near, how are the rubberneckers managing? :)


212 posted on 07/04/2010 6:26:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 250 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: AndyJackson

>> 65ft. stand-off distance ... a bare minimum acceptable standoff distance

There should be some provisions to allow access to a limited set of journalists and camera crews within the perimeter in order to document the necessary closeups. There are a number of ways to handle this in a safe, organized manner.

On the other hand, we’re not seeing the media coverage the situation deserves beyond the 65ft perimeter. So, Cooper seems to be complaining about constraints that do not affect him nor his colleagues.


213 posted on 07/04/2010 6:39:09 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: mewzilla

Maybe the press hasn’t hired the right civilian boat! lol I don’t know mewzilla, that’s just what I’m hearing from a worker and local media.


214 posted on 07/04/2010 6:44:59 AM PDT by sweet_diane (Someone, please... just plug the darn hole!)
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To: AndyJackson
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/notam_print_0_5100.html

"The FAA rule is not as conspiratorial as Thom may imply. It reads as a technical response to protect pilots from the low-altitude erratic air traffic devoted to the oil spill. Pilots are free to fly as before above 3,000 feet above "ground level" and beyond 12 miles from US coast. Still can get good pictures up there."

As with the 65 foot rule discussed before, this gives the statists an "out", so they can claim "technical" reasons for spraying "felony" charges around like an anti-aircraft gun.

215 posted on 07/04/2010 6:46:08 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: Sub-Driver
We've already seen the press stand up for Fox News when Obama wanted them gone from a presser. And now Obama violating freedom of the press once again. For as much as the MSM is in bed with Obama, this is not playing well with them. If Obama loses the media, he loses everything.

What a state we live in where a President is that dumb, and the media is that powerful.

216 posted on 07/04/2010 6:54:23 AM PDT by rintense
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To: PennsylvaniaMom; Virginia Ridgerunner

I concur with both of your posts PM. I think what Cooper is not making clear for his viewers(perhaps on purpose) is that 65 feet may not seem like alot, but most of the booms are placed 200 feet or more from the beach, so the true distance is greater than ‘65 feet’. Some reporters have then tried going through the land side and marshes only to be met with fencing and more ‘security’ blocking thier way.

So the Zero Administration is blocking access..plain and simple. It has little to do with ‘safety issues’ in my ever so humble opinion. This bears repeating:

In other news...
Congressional Report Claims Administration Misled About Efforts on Oil Spill

“Two White House officials visited [Nungesser] on Father’s Day and said, “What do we have to do to keep you off TV?” His answer was, “Give me what I need.””

123 posted on Saturday, July 03, 2010 6:14:37 PM by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)


217 posted on 07/04/2010 6:56:23 AM PDT by penelopesire ("Did you plug the hole yet daddy?")
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To: Sub-Driver

“The White House Thursday enacted stronger rules to prevent the media from showing what’s happening with the oil spill in the Gulf Coast.”

It won’t work.


218 posted on 07/04/2010 6:57:57 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: AndyJackson
It comes from Rule 18 of the international rules to avoid collisions at sea: "A power driven vessel shall keep out of the way of a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver." Under Rule 3, the vessels of which we speak are restricted in their ability to maneuver. In open waters 65 ft is hardly a liberal amount of space by which to establish keeping clear. A mile is more like it. This stuff isn't hard. This is how masters of vessels at sea keep from killing people and sinking ships. If you don't understand, don't mess with it.

From the article: "Well, the Coast Guard today announced new rules keeping photographers and reporters and anyone else from coming within 65 feet of any response vessel or booms out on the water or on beaches -- 65 feet."

OK, I'm not understanding the part about the beaches. Is it because when the Coast Guard accidentally runs their vessels up on the beaches, they still need the 65 feet clearance to be able to maneuver between the driftwood, seashells and flotsam, without damaging the sand?

219 posted on 07/04/2010 6:59:19 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: mewzilla; penelopesire

Mewzilla, thank you for the link. Penelope...thank you for your concurence...and I just want to add, Nunngesser is one of the two Parish Presidents that Cooper interviewed in the piece.


220 posted on 07/04/2010 7:08:11 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( (((((((((((((((((((PALIN/BACHMANN 2012))))))))))))))))))))
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