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To: Mere Survival
[Once they see that . . . they should be able to change their minds.]
 
Should be able to if they wanted to change their minds.... but:
 
According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization"....
 
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The result? The result you can see -- most of the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society....
 
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov, circa 1984
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93 posted on 07/05/2010 8:23:47 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

Thanks for reminding me of disinformation and Yuri Bezmenov. Now if the Soviets had the power to create such absolute brainwashing in a population they would still be in power . . . so . . . Bezmenov gets that it is “irreversible” and “complete” wrong! I think it’s the “biggest lie” that Satan ever told that holds liberals back . . . remember that phrase that the biggest lie Satan tells is that he doesn’t exist? . . . The libs don’t know Satan (in this case disinformation and brainwashing on THEM) . . . they don’t know it exists. We have a hurdle but I don’t think Bezmenov is correct in saying: “other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible.”

Nothing is complete and irreversible when it comes to the human mind! We are flexible.

Not to discount in any way what Bezmenov said or its importance, or even the difficulty of overcoming it.

My point is: hope & fight. If God is with us, who can be against us?


94 posted on 07/06/2010 1:43:56 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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