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Leviticus and Immigration
National Catholic Reporter ^ | May. 03, 2010 | Demetria Martinez

Posted on 07/07/2010 10:46:06 AM PDT by van_erwin

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This is a tough one for me as a Christian. I was recently reminded of the text of Leviticus 19: 33-34. Not a lot of ambiguity in this Scripture.
1 posted on 07/07/2010 10:46:09 AM PDT by van_erwin
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This is the argument put forth by Jose F. Morales Jr. in the March issue of Sojourners magazine. Immigration reform -- bringing scores of immigrants out of the shadows -- will "allow the church to pray and worship in a new way" as immigrants and non-immigrants alike work together to build God’s kingdom on earth, Morales writes.

IOW, the Church can make more money.

2 posted on 07/07/2010 10:48:10 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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“The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born.”

I read that to mean if the alien has broken the law to be here, the alien must be held accountable just as one of the native-born would.


3 posted on 07/07/2010 10:49:34 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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This is the argument put forth by Jose F. Morales Jr. in the March issue of Sojourners magazine. Immigration reform -- bringing scores of immigrants out of the shadows -- will "allow the church to pray and worship in a new way" as immigrants and non-immigrants alike work together to build God’s kingdom on earth, Morales writes.

Sojourners is Jim Wallis' rag.

4 posted on 07/07/2010 10:49:36 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: van_erwin

Drivel such as this is one of N reasons (where N is a large number) that I am no longer a Catholic.


5 posted on 07/07/2010 10:50:25 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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So I guess the Israelis should let in all those Palestinians under the “right of return”.


6 posted on 07/07/2010 10:51:34 AM PDT by C19fan
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Not so tough. It tells us not to mistreat people just because they are aliens. The Bible (Jesus) also tells us to render to Caesar what is Caesar’s. Now, that’s mostly in financial tribute to our government but the Bible also tells us to respect and obey our government’s laws.

We have laws on the books that deal with illegal-aliens. They are constitutional and should be obeyed. Obeying them in no way mistreats people who came here illegally.


7 posted on 07/07/2010 10:53:56 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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Migration theologians frequently cite Leviticus 19: 33-34. "When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."

There are aliens and then there are illegal aliens (who jumped the line). Then there are aliens who want to replace our language and laws with their own. And there are those who rape and murder, fill our jails, take our jobs, and take opportunity away from those who wait to enter legally.

8 posted on 07/07/2010 10:54:10 AM PDT by olezip
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Drivel such as this is one of N reasons (where N is a large number) that I am no longer a Catholic.

Sorry, but are you talking about Leviticus or the article? I don't know that I really get what the author's saying, but I don't think I can ignore Scripture.

9 posted on 07/07/2010 10:54:51 AM PDT by van_erwin
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To: Da Coyote

This reads like more Latin American Social Justice B.S. I hear about coming from ELCA,too.


10 posted on 07/07/2010 10:56:25 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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I must have missed the part of scripture that commands us to give them, and all their relatives, free goodies for life, and to vacate our lands on their behalf.


11 posted on 07/07/2010 10:56:40 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Morales's argument is rarely heard simply because so many of us know enough Spanish to understand what the illegal aliens are saying about us.

They are NOT CHARITIBLE to say the least.

Time for "these strangers" to go back home.

12 posted on 07/07/2010 10:57:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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If you read a little more about Leviticus, you would realize that they are talking about Gentiles (also referred to as Strangers.) They are not talking about Illegal Aliens.


13 posted on 07/07/2010 10:57:49 AM PDT by richardtavor
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If you read a little more about Leviticus, you would realize that they are talking about Gentiles (also referred to as Strangers.) They are not talking about Illegal Aliens.


14 posted on 07/07/2010 10:58:02 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: van_erwin
I was recently reminded of the text of Leviticus 19: 33-34. Not a lot of ambiguity in this Scripture.

The New Testament tells us that Jesus brought a new Law that wiped out the old. Read John 10:1 and get back to me on ambiguity.

15 posted on 07/07/2010 10:58:16 AM PDT by HiJinx (Why govern when you can golf?)
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It shouldn’t be a tough one with you. I don’t think anyone is advocating treating immigrants as second hand citizens. Those that immigrate should be treated well.

However, those that enter our country with no permission should be sent back.


16 posted on 07/07/2010 10:58:16 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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Not a lot of ambiguity in this Scripture.

The ambiguity is in the status of the alien. One would assume the alien is there legally since the Israelites were in Egypt legally.

"People of faith" who jump on the anti-Arizona bandwagon are basicly "people of emotion" who's faith is a mile wide and about an inch deep.

17 posted on 07/07/2010 10:59:11 AM PDT by tbpiper
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ANNEX MEXICO!!!!
18 posted on 07/07/2010 11:00:20 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.)
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1) I am not bound by the Law. I am free from the Law. Jesus fulfilled the Law.

(Now, if you similarly separate wool and linen, don't eat shellfish, tithe 10%, then this applies to you).

2) In other parts of the OT, God told the Israelites to "utterly destroy" those living in the and they were to occupy. Well, if we apply that today, we would have destroyed the Mexicans in the Southwest in the first place---though obviously not those in Mexico.

3) The Bible also intended that the alien live by Jewish laws---obviously, the alien had to adapt to Jewish culture. Somehow I don't think any "alien" shouting "Viva Babylon" in Judea would have lasted long. Are the current immigrants doing this?

As for the utterly goofy notion that I need a bunch of illegals to keep me from being a racist---it's so stupid I don't have words.

19 posted on 07/07/2010 11:01:24 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: van_erwin

Yes, there is a lot of ambiguity.

Most importantly, what is the context of this passage? Who is an alien and how did they get there? What was expected of them in return? Did they need to have the approval of the king to live there or did everyone just wander around crossing borders and squat on whatever plot of ground looked appealing to them?

Immigrant rights activists believe in breaking the law but you won’t find much support for that viewpoint in scripture.


20 posted on 07/07/2010 11:01:43 AM PDT by Ford4000
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