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Border violence spills onto Mexican ranches, farms
AP ^ | Wednesday July 7th, 2010 | CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN

Posted on 07/07/2010 1:35:22 PM PDT by stevie_d_64

LAREDO, Texas – Mexican rancher Isidro Gutierrez watched with disgust as federal inspectors here chalked a long stripe on his steer's hindquarter. The animal could not be imported because its breed can be vulnerable to disease.

If inspections were still being done across the Rio Grande in Mexico, routine rejections like that would be just an inconvenience. But drug violence in the border region has chased American cattle inspectors back to the U.S. side, so Gutierrez has to pay brokers in both countries and hire a truck to take back rejected animals.

"It's cheaper to kill him here," Gutierrez said.

The drug violence along the U.S.-Mexico border is now spilling into the region's agriculture, threatening the safety of ranchers and farmers, slowing down what was expected to be the best harvest in years, and raising the risk that some crops will rot in the fields.

Ranchers like Gutierrez have trouble getting their animals to market. Farmers who once toiled long hours in the fields now fear being attacked in the dark. Some are even being forced to pay protection money to keep from being kidnapped or having their harvest stolen.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borders; borderwar; illegal; immigration; mexico; security

1 posted on 07/07/2010 1:35:29 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

But no...This is still not enough to do anything about the alleged spillover violence from Mexico...Our border is more secure than ithas ever been according to the government!!!

do I need it???

Ok, here it is...

“/sarc”


2 posted on 07/07/2010 1:37:13 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

“It’s cheaper to kill him here,” Gutierrez said.

No wonder the Inspectors don’t want to cross the border.


3 posted on 07/07/2010 1:39:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: stevie_d_64
Oh, but the border is as safe as it's ever been!

Just ask the jacka$$ occupying the Whitehouse!

4 posted on 07/07/2010 1:39:27 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-3-10!)
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To: stevie_d_64
Of course AP considers the real border problem to be violence to be spilling over from the USA into Mexico and disrupting those poor Mexican farmers.

The press is our worst enemy. I eagerly anticipate the day they are dealt with.

5 posted on 07/07/2010 1:40:43 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

The AP has to be careful; revealing too much of what’s going on down there makes SB1070 look more and more like a good idea.


6 posted on 07/07/2010 1:43:02 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Obama is too busy trying to convince Michelle to take a trip to the Gulf.


7 posted on 07/07/2010 1:43:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: stevie_d_64

This is an email I received from a friend whose sister lives in Arizona:

This is why Arizona passed that new law that mirrors the Federal Law exactly. All they did was take a Federal Law that was not being enforced and copied it to make it also a State Law they could enforce. If the State Law is unconstitutional then the Federal Law which has been on the books for generation was also unconstitutional, which of course it is not. What some morons are upset about is not the Law; it’s that it is being enforced. They don’t understand what “Illegal” means.

Forwarded by a friend who recently retired from border patrol.........

As you know, one of the local ranchers was murdered in Douglas two weeks ago. His funeral is tomorrow. I received three messages similar to the one below from different officers within the Rangers and law enforcement.
>Yesterday afternoon I talked to another rancher near us who is a friend of ours and whose great grandfather started their ranch here in 1880. These are good people. He told me what really happened out at the Krentz ranch and what you won’t read in the papers. The Border Patrol is afraid of starting a small war between civilians here and the drug cartels in Mexico .

Bob Krentz was checking his water like he does every evening and came upon an illegal who was lying on the ground telling him he was sick. Bob called the Border Patrol and asked for a medical helicopter evac. As he turned to go back to his ATV he was shot in the side. The round came from down and angled up so they know the shooter was on the ground. Bob’s firearm was in the ATV so he had no chance. Wounded he called the Cochise County Sheriff and asked for help. Bleeding in the lungs he called his brother but the line was bad so he called his wife but again the line was bad.
>Several ranchers heard the radio call and drove to his location. Bob was dead by this time. The ranchers tracked the shooter 8 miles back towards Mexico and cornered him in a brushy draw. This was all at night. The Sherriff and Border Patrol arrived and told them not to go down and engage the murderer. They went around to the back side and if you can believe it the assassin managed to get by a BP helicopter and a Sheriff’s posse and back to Mexico . So much for professional help when you need it.
>One week before the murder Bob and his brother Phil (who I shoot with) hauled a huge quantity of drugs off the ranch that they found in trucks. One week before that a rancher near Naco did the same thing. Two nights later gangs broke into his ranch house and beat him and his wife and told them that if they touched any drugs they found they would come back and kill them. The ranchers here deal with cut fences and haul drug deliveries off their ranches all the time. What ranchers think is that the drug cartels beat the one rancher and shot Bob because they wanted to send a message. Bob always gave food and water to illegals and so they think they sent the assassin to pose as an illegal who was hungry and thirsty knowing it would catch Bob off guard.
>What is going on down here is NOT being reported. You need to tell people how bad it is along the border. Texas is worse. Near El Paso it’s in a state of war. 5000 people were killed in Ciudad Juarez last year and it’s over 2000 so far this year. Gun sales down here are through the roof and I get emails from people wanting firearms training.
>Something has to be done but I don’t hold out much hope. These gangs have groups in almost every city in the US . Please read below. This is serious business. The Barrio Azteca and their sub gangs are like Mexican Corporations and organized extremely well. If this doesn’t get dealt with down here you guys will deal with it on your streets.

SEND TO YOUR FRIENDS!


8 posted on 07/07/2010 1:44:06 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: skeeter
"The press is our worst enemy. I eagerly anticipate the day they are dealt with."

How? That's the money question.

We don't buy their newspapers, magazines or watch their garbage TV shows and they are still around. Next they will be getting a bailout.

9 posted on 07/07/2010 1:45:41 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-3-10!)
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To: stevie_d_64

Mehico has ranches and farms? Are they hiring?


10 posted on 07/07/2010 1:50:04 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
There are still many people who believe the media legitimate and impartial, just like they believe the government is legitimate and impartial, as an article of faith.

I'm not talking about the segment of population who directly profit by big government in one way or another. I'm referring to the dummies who have as much to lose by an increasingly oppressive government as do you and I.

One day enough people will understand that the media like government is made up of individuals with agendas that are diametrically opposed to their own interests. Then things will happen quickly.

11 posted on 07/07/2010 2:28:46 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: stevie_d_64; K-oneTexas; txmissy; culpeper; rimtop56; carjic; patriot08; ezoeni; Yehuda; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


12 posted on 07/07/2010 4:00:52 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Victory or Death!)
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To: SwinneySwitch; stevie_d_64; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; HiJinx; ...
Thanks for the ping, Swinney. No one should be going through what these CITIZENS are one on the border!

And it's not just the border.

Coming to your town! Gop better wake up and fight AND get rid of John McCain.

Some news from Montana today:

Mexican street gang members arrested in Bozeman, West Yellowstone (NO where left to hide!)

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/article_fc8228b2-8643-11df-a4e4-001cc4c03286.html

Courtesy U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement This photo, released by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, shows tattoos on a member of the Mexican "Surenos" gang, who was arrested in the Bozeman area in early July 2010.

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13 posted on 07/07/2010 4:26:53 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: jonrick46

your post is important and deserves its own THREAD.


14 posted on 07/07/2010 4:36:40 PM PDT by TokuMei
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To: jonrick46; All

You need to post this as a new thread. We would appreciate this very much!


15 posted on 07/07/2010 4:51:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I agree...

Not so much as a peep about this is getting out, except in places like this...

Obviously a political solution will not work, it is too late...

It’s a shame, and it is going to get a lot worse...We may not win this one...


16 posted on 07/07/2010 6:03:36 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

Don’t give up yet.

We have a violent non country enemy invading from the south and a powerful and vindictive enemy to the north.

But it isn’t over yet.


17 posted on 07/07/2010 8:46:23 PM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: Texas resident

When the government fails to do what it is supposed to do, and instead does things to discourage and threaten the average U.S. citizen (with prosectution) that actually lives in the direct path of this threat from taking action of their own, then that amounts to an epic fail in my book...

When you live in a sanctuary city like I do, and you cannot get any results from tangible proof (observations) to initiate an official investigation of a suspected “stash house” 2 doors down from where you live where you know there are transient illegal immigrants being held there till they can be distributed further into this country, and you become more of an interest because of your “angry” expectations of law enforcement, then I dunno, what do we call that???

Sounds to me like those that are suppose to be doing something about it have already given up...And this has been the norm for quite some time...

See, there used to be a distinct difference in the traffic coming across the border...You had simply the people movers, and they had their system of moving people across, then stashing them for further distribution within our country...Then you had the narco traffickers, they used a variety of methods to move their product across the border and distribute it around the country...

Now those two systems have a higher precentage of merging (the two systems) and the cartels are using the people to move the product across the border, in the promise of “reduced fees” for the trip...

And what little was being done on our side to thwart the progress of this new “norm” is now totally out of control, and the more folks (U.S. citizens) are coming across the new effort are paying for it with the loss of their property and in some cases recently their lives...

Very soon, all we will be able to do is watch it happen, and not have any mechanism in place to protect what is left of our border very soon...

The cartels have already well established and solid operations and security on their side of the border...They are now doing the same on our side, creting a nice “buffer zone” to operte and intimidate on both sides of the border and have operations in the sanctuary cities to reach out further inside our country to ply their wares...

Once it is tightened up on our side (by the cartels) is when we can expect nothing (our politicians) to be effective to stop it without seriously effecting what is left of our citizenry in these effected areas, other than a complete military (or armed citizens) solution...And even then it will be too little, too late...

Amazing how in as little as 20 years, this country could lose a war, and not even join in a significant enough battle in that war enough to garner more than a regurgitated video byte every now and then on the local or national news feed...


18 posted on 07/08/2010 2:32:22 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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