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Enforcement at heart of Ariz. immigration lawsuit (ENFORCE THE LAWS NOW!)
ap ^ | 7/7/2010 | BOB CHRISTIE

Posted on 07/07/2010 3:24:37 PM PDT by tobyhill

On paper, Arizona's controversial new immigration law is not that different from the federal version.

But the key difference is this: Arizona wants every illegal immigrant caught and deported. The federal government says treating all 11 million of the nation's illegal immigrants as criminals would overwhelm the system.

In its lawsuit challenging the Arizona law, the Justice Department says its policy is to focus on dangerous immigrants: gang members, drug traffickers, threats to national security. Law-abiding immigrants without documentation would largely be left alone.

Homeland Security officials say the government cannot possibly find, arrest and deport everyone who is here illegally. And trying to do so would also upset a balance crafted by Congress that takes into account humanitarian interests and foreign relations.

But proponents of the Arizona solution insist that's no reason not to try. And they say the state's toughest-in-the-nation law is a reasonable way to start.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; aliens; arizona; standwitharizona
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1 posted on 07/07/2010 3:24:39 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

“And trying to do so would also upset a balance crafted by Congress that takes into account humanitarian interests and foreign relations.”

Better:

And trying to do so would also upset a balance crafted by Congress that takes into account payoffs and subsequent treason.


2 posted on 07/07/2010 3:32:33 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: tobyhill

Well Bubba, you don’t have to find them or arrest them, just deport them. The Arizona law says we find them, arrest them and turn them over to the Feds to deport. If they can’t even do a third of their job, we need to get rid of federal employees and just have things done locally with the exception of the military.


3 posted on 07/07/2010 3:36:06 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: tobyhill

If the feds don’t do the job, there is a higher law which allows victims of government inaction to take care of the job by “self help”


4 posted on 07/07/2010 3:47:30 PM PDT by amihow
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To: tobyhill
On paper, Arizona's controversial new bank robbery/rape law is not that different from the federal version.

But the key difference is this: Arizona wants every bank robber and rapist caught and dealt with. The federal government says treating all the nation's bank robbers and rapists as criminals would overwhelm the system.

In its lawsuit challenging the Arizona law, the Justice Department says its policy is to focus on dangerous bank robbers and rapists: gang members, drug traffickers, threats to national security. Otherwise law-abiding bank robbers and rapists would largely be left alone.

Homeland Security officials say the government cannot possibly find, arrest and deport everyone who is robbing banks and raping people. And trying to do so would also upset a balance crafted by Congress that takes into account humanitarian interests and foreign relations...

But proponents of the Arizona solution insist that's no reason not to try.

5 posted on 07/07/2010 3:58:58 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: tobyhill
A March study by the liberal Center for American Progress estimated that deporting the entire illegal immigration population and securing the borders would cost $285 billion over five years.

Now that would be a good use for that left-over stimulus money. And the long-term savings would make this one government program that would actually result in a lower costs to state and local governments.
6 posted on 07/07/2010 3:59:49 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: goldfinch

Shovel-ready jobs.


7 posted on 07/07/2010 4:05:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: tobyhill

“…enforcing illegal immigrants as criminals would overwhelm the system...”

Really, prove it!

Second, ILLEGAL ALIEN immigrants are CRIMINALS; you frack’n pedantic idiot.

Third, as much money as is spent on public representatives, law enforcement, public safety and military then we are wasting our time and resources as a nation if they cannot even do their jobs.


8 posted on 07/07/2010 4:09:16 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: tobyhill
Neither Brewer nor Russell Pearce, who helped author the bill, fell off the turnip truck yesterday. They knew FedGov would attack, so the bill has been written very carefully, with protections against racial profiling built in.

The Clown Show can't fight it successfully without lies and smears and corrupt judges. And they know it.

"Go ahead...make my day".

Here's hoping they and the Alphabet Media further expose themselves as the incompetent hacks that they are, and further the publik's disgust with them.

9 posted on 07/07/2010 4:11:11 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: tobyhill
Just got this graphic in an email.


10 posted on 07/07/2010 4:19:26 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: tobyhill
The federal government says treating all 11 million of the nation's illegal immigrants as criminals would overwhelm the system.

They ARE criminals!

11 posted on 07/07/2010 4:25:28 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: tobyhill
But the key difference is this: Arizona wants every illegal immigrant caught and deported. The federal government says treating all 11 million of the nation's illegal immigrants as criminals would overwhelm the system.

That's a legislative issue, not something for the courts to be concerned about. If enforcing the law over strips the funds allocated, then congress can either increase funding, change the law, or continue letting the executive branch use the lack of sufficient funding as an excuse for totally ineffective enforcement.

It is just up to the courts to make sure everything is constitutional and no laws are being broken by those involved. It is not up to the courts to try and find a solution.

The Arizona law also doesn't force the federal government to deport these illegal immigrants or to enforce Arizona's laws. That is up to Arizona, so the argument has no merrit to begin with.

12 posted on 07/07/2010 4:35:12 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

Bob Christie says that the primary difference is that, at the Federal level, law-abiding undocumented immigrants would be left alone.

Well, Mr. Dork, the same is true with SB 1070 as amended. We’re only going to turn them over to ICE after they’ve broken the law and come in contact with a LEO.

Sheesh, Mr. Dork, how stupid do you think we are? Never mind, I don’t need your answer to that. You’ve already answered if for me.


13 posted on 07/07/2010 4:48:15 PM PDT by HiJinx (Why govern when you can golf?)
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To: La Lydia

Works every time to point out the hypocrisy, don’t it?


14 posted on 07/07/2010 4:51:50 PM PDT by HiJinx (Why govern when you can golf?)
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To: tobyhill

Opponents of enforcing the law know that it works as a deterrent but don’t want those democrats deported.


15 posted on 07/07/2010 4:57:04 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: tobyhill
But the key difference is this: Arizona wants every illegal immigrant caught and deported.

Actually, that is exactly what federal law also "wants" on paper - it provides that every immigrant entering or staying in the country contrary to federal requirements is breaking the law and the penalty is deportation.

It is politicians who choose not to enforce what the federal law "wants," to use the AP's verb.

16 posted on 07/07/2010 5:01:32 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: HiJinx

What bugs me is they think we are so stupid.


17 posted on 07/07/2010 5:24:03 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

I know..it’s very frustrating...I’d love to unload on some of these people in the MSM.


18 posted on 07/07/2010 6:38:26 PM PDT by HiJinx (Why govern when you can golf?)
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To: La Lydia

This is something that was sent to me by my niece back home in Pittsburgh, Pa ( We are definitely not noted for being politically correct)

Drinking with an ARIZONA Girl:

A Mexican, an Arab,and an Arizona girl are in the same bar.

When the Mexican finishes his beer, he throws his glass in the air,
pulls out his pistol, and shoots the glass to pieces. He says, ‘In Mexico,
our glasses are so cheap we don’t need to drink with the same one twice.’

The Arab, obviously impressed by this, drinks non-alcohol beer
(cuz he’s a muslim!), throws it into the air, pulls out his AK-47, and shoots
the glass to pieces. He says, ‘In the Arab World, we have so much
sand to make glasses that we don’t need to drink with the same one twice either.’

The Arizona girl, cool as a cucumber, picks up her beer,downs it in one gulp,
throws the glass into the air, whips out her 45, and shoots the Mexican and the Arab.
Catching her glass,setting it on the bar, and calling for a refill, she says,’In Arizona,
we have so many illegal aliens that we don’t have to drink with the same ones twice.’

God Bless The USA


19 posted on 07/07/2010 6:56:34 PM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: aloppoct

Salud!


20 posted on 07/07/2010 6:59:24 PM PDT by La Lydia
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