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Officer convicted in Calif. train station killing
Associated Press ^ | July 8, 2010 | GREG RISLING

Posted on 07/08/2010 4:26:35 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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1 posted on 07/08/2010 4:26:38 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sounds like a reasonable decision. How do you mistake a gun for a taser?


2 posted on 07/08/2010 4:30:45 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good, I am tired of crackers getting away with murder. Seriously though, he did murder the unamred, handcuffed, helpless guy.


3 posted on 07/08/2010 4:30:45 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And the riots begin.


4 posted on 07/08/2010 4:30:49 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sadly, the race profiteers insist on making this incident a racial one — thought nothing in the either participants actions showed race as a motivation.


5 posted on 07/08/2010 4:31:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m going to go burn some vehicles and riot!

/sarc


6 posted on 07/08/2010 4:32:20 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Given the facts, that’s probably the appropriate verdict. Now we’ll see how the post-sunset reaction goes.


7 posted on 07/08/2010 4:32:58 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think most city police departments are little more than uniformed street gangs, and should be disbanded.

The cop in this case blew away a kid in cold blood, then he and his buddies tried to use muscle to cover it up. If the riots begin and there is blood running in the streets, the Blue Gang will have no one but themselves to blame.


8 posted on 07/08/2010 4:33:14 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: Lou Budvis

At the time, they were sharing tasers. He’d been given one configured “same side”.


9 posted on 07/08/2010 4:34:57 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Film at 11 on Rioting < / sarc


10 posted on 07/08/2010 4:35:05 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How does a police officer mistake a gun for a taser???????????????????????????????????????


11 posted on 07/08/2010 4:35:39 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: Lou Budvis
Voluntary manslaughter was way too light. He didn't deserve 1st degree murder, but this was something that merited at least a decade or two behind bars.

It is also fair in this case to ask if he would have gotten similar leniency if he was not a cop. Consider: last year a Virginia man named Ryan Frederick got convicted of a higher charge of voluntary manslaughter with 10 years for killing a cop. Frederick shot the cop as he was busting into his house during a no-knock raid after mistaking him for a burglar.

What Mehserle did was a lot worse and a lot more blatant and wrong than what Frederick did. Yet he gets a lower charge with only 2-4 years?

12 posted on 07/08/2010 4:39:07 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: McGavin999

If someone killed this particular cop, I’d be inclined to vote for a soimilar conviction.

The fact is the cop murdered the victim and the DA put on a case that guaranteed this verdict when he could have gotten murder 1 or 2.


13 posted on 07/08/2010 4:39:59 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: BenLurkin

Hell, nothing short of Murder 1 would have been good enough for these race whores.

As for Oakland: “Burn, Baby, Burn”


14 posted on 07/08/2010 4:40:55 PM PDT by ssaftler (Arizonans: Doing the job that Americans won't do.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Ryan Frederick of Virginia got 10 years and voluntary manslaughter last year for mistakenly shooting a cop that he thought was a burglar during a no-knock raid.

What Mehserle did was significantly worse than Frederick. Yet Mehserle gets a lesser charge with only 2-4 years. That in itself is illustrative that he got off comparatively easy because he's a cop.

15 posted on 07/08/2010 4:41:34 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: ArmstedFragg
At the time, they were sharing tasers. He’d been given one configured “same side”.

Actually, his taser was on his left side while his gun was on his right.

The taser was configured to be drawable with his right hand, so maybe that's what you meant.
16 posted on 07/08/2010 4:41:43 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: ssaftler

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/justice.wav


17 posted on 07/08/2010 4:43:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: ssaftler
Hell, nothing short of Murder 1 would have been good enough for these race whores. As for Oakland: “Burn, Baby, Burn”

I think you're letting some past indignity you've suffered eclipse all rational thought. Calm down.
18 posted on 07/08/2010 4:43:38 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: B-Chan

If the cop were to somehow become the victim of a killing, I think involuntary manslaughter would be an appropriate charge.


19 posted on 07/08/2010 4:45:07 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: aNYCguy
I think you're letting some past indignity you've suffered eclipse all rational thought. Calm down.

No, I live 10 miles from the incident, and was just listening to the news conference. Trust me, this ain't gonna be pretty!

20 posted on 07/08/2010 4:45:44 PM PDT by ssaftler (Arizonans: Doing the job that Americans won't do.)
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To: Lou Budvis; ColdOne

A cop mistaking a gun for a taser has happened before. I will link the article if you wish. It won’t change anyone’s mind though.


21 posted on 07/08/2010 4:46:36 PM PDT by Enterprise (As a disaster unfolds, a putz putts.)
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To: conimbricenses

The judge will find as a matter of fact that he used a handgun in commission of a felony in controversion to Penal Code 12022.5. Otherwise known as a gun enhancement. He is looking at at least another three years to be run consecutively with his existing sentance and could get up to 10 more.


22 posted on 07/08/2010 4:48:13 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: conimbricenses

I think it is a fair resolution. I have been to many train stops in large cities and they attract some really bad people, bums, and thugs. They usually all carry weapons. These are not easy patrol areas. Not an excuse but I can see where you can be on edge at these areas and make a knee jerk mistake.


23 posted on 07/08/2010 4:48:24 PM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: ssaftler
I'm perfectly willing to trust you that this ain't gonna be pretty. But that's not what I was responding to. You're clearly some kind of walking open emotional wound about "race whores," and you seem to truly want Oakland to burn.

I'm asking you to keep your baggage to yourself and either add something relevant and intelligent or shut it.
24 posted on 07/08/2010 4:48:46 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: Enterprise

The cops need to learn to do mind melds and an appropriate neck pinch.


25 posted on 07/08/2010 4:49:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Enterprise
A cop mistaking a gun for a taser has happened before.

In all likelihood it has. Most cops have a bad habit of styling themselves as gun "experts" because of a few hours of training at the police academy. It breeds a dangerous and deadly hubris that causes them to neglect basic gun safety rules that even most novice gun owning civilians know by heart.

26 posted on 07/08/2010 4:49:47 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: ssaftler

Yep, riots tonight, hotter tomorrow.


27 posted on 07/08/2010 4:50:22 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Enterprise

You are right no one minds will be changed.. I just wonder... He may have made that mistake. We will never know.


28 posted on 07/08/2010 4:50:53 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who is this asshole talking like a moron with a painters cap?

“I have no power over anyone, even the dissenting juror who feels they have been slighted, etc, etc, etc.

What a jackoff.

Sorry for the loss of that kid but if he were a truly responsible citizen he would have given a short statement and skipped the questioning.


29 posted on 07/08/2010 4:52:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Smogger

I hope it happens, but I’m not holding my breath. Judges have a bad habit of inventing “exceptions” to gun enhancement upgrades for cops...except when they are border patrol going after illegal immigrants.


30 posted on 07/08/2010 4:52:36 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: All

For reference, Live Audio from Alameda Co. (Oakland):
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=5375


31 posted on 07/08/2010 4:52:37 PM PDT by elpinta (Jer. 10:23)
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To: ColdOne
How does a police officer mistake a gun for a taser???????????????????????????????????????

It's not the first time in California. In 2002, Madera Office Marcie Noriega shot Everardo Torres through the heart with a .40 Glock that she thought was a Taser. Torres was handcuffed in the back of a police car. He was trying to kick out the car windows. His BAC was 0.15. Officer Noriega was not charged.

It's not clear how the two cases differ.

32 posted on 07/08/2010 4:54:24 PM PDT by cynwoody
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It's not the first time in California. In 2002, Madera Office Marcie Noriega shot Everardo Torres through the heart with a .40 Glock that she thought was a Taser. Torres was handcuffed in the back of a police car. He was trying to kick out the car windows. His BAC was 0.15. Officer Noriega was not charged. It's not clear how the two cases differ.Thanks for info!
33 posted on 07/08/2010 4:57:13 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: aNYCguy; ssaftler

Pretty sure he forgot the obligatory “/S” and thought it was implied.


34 posted on 07/08/2010 4:57:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ssaftler

Are you listening to these guys?

They are absolutely ratcheting it up!


35 posted on 07/08/2010 4:58:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: aNYCguy
You're clearly some kind of walking open emotional wound about "race whores," and you seem to truly want Oakland to burn.

For the last 18 months, we have heard nothing around here except how this was a WHITE Police Officer killing a poor, innocent "African-American" male. Nothing about the near riot on the BART tracks that the officers were responding to, nothing about the sheer numbers of people involved, not a DAMNED thing except how this was a racial incident.

I'm sorry if it insults your sensibilities that these people have no agenda save to make me ashamed that my skin isn't very dark. These people that purport to heed the words of Martin Luther King, Jr. seem to have forgotten his greatest comment, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

I hope I'm wrong about Oakland burning, I really do. But I'm enough of a realist and have seen enough of the local news lately to know that my chances of being wrong are not great.

36 posted on 07/08/2010 5:00:39 PM PDT by ssaftler (Arizonans: Doing the job that Americans won't do.)
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To: cynwoody

For one thing there was a video tape of this incident.


37 posted on 07/08/2010 5:00:49 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: aNYCguy; ssaftler

>> I’m asking you to keep your baggage to yourself and either add something relevant and intelligent or shut it.

And just who the hell are you to make a statement like that?


38 posted on 07/08/2010 5:01:46 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Vendome

Did you hear him pleading with his fellow rioters to NOT destroy the businesses with signage supporting the victim?


39 posted on 07/08/2010 5:03:20 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

Live radio feed for oakland fire and TAC riot squad?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=183


40 posted on 07/08/2010 5:04:15 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: ssaftler
I honestly haven't heard that much rhetoric about the race of the officer and the victim. It wouldn't change my view of the incident either way. It's the same as as every other questionable shooting by the police. BLUE vs EVERYONE ELSE.
41 posted on 07/08/2010 5:04:29 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: ssaftler

I will be back in 45 minutes. Let me know if anything happens.

I will check FR off my phone.

Thanks.

This feels like Rodney King, again.


42 posted on 07/08/2010 5:04:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: aNYCguy

I read part of the testimony, but apparently didn’t retain that, thanks for the correction. Same hand draw would be more accurate.


43 posted on 07/08/2010 5:05:37 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: mrsixpack36

The guy was on the ground and hand-cuffed and then was murdered.


44 posted on 07/08/2010 5:15:34 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ArmstedFragg

Ron Dellums reminds me of Marshall Applewhite

He was cutoff as soon as he stated racism is alive and well


45 posted on 07/08/2010 5:15:44 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene

Dellums has a long, long, history of race pimpery.


46 posted on 07/08/2010 5:17:19 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Live KTVU.com

Mayor Red Dellums is playing the race card as he speaks to the verdict.. too many young black men dying.. justice was not served the fight continues for ‘justice’.. this is not the end of the road.. finally, expressing the anger. be respectful for the victim and the grieving family. find a way to seek the best in ourself. show the nation Oakland can respond to adversity with the appropriate spirit.

Mehserle will likely do a few years..


47 posted on 07/08/2010 5:17:35 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: B-Chan

Grow up and stop spouting off crap you learned from watching too much TV or listening to too much gangsta rap.

And when someone steal the 22” spinners off your Kia, don’t go crying to your eyes out to the “Blue Gang”


48 posted on 07/08/2010 5:17:45 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal
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To: SeaHawkFan
The guy was on the ground and hand-cuffed and then was murdered.

Not according to the jury. They passed on the 1st degree murder

49 posted on 07/08/2010 5:18:52 PM PDT by Popman (Obama Presidential Timber: Worm Eaten Balsa Wood)
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To: Popman

The judge took 1st degree murder off the table. The most he could have been convicted of was second degree.


50 posted on 07/08/2010 5:21:05 PM PDT by Smogger
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