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Top cop: 'Entire city should be enraged' by officer's slaying
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| 7/9/10
| William Lee
Posted on 07/09/2010 10:40:52 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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The whole country will soon be a reflection of Chicago if we can't stop Obama's 'Justice' Dept from ignoring crimes committed by minorities. Chicago is a cesspool of crime in all areas of the city, upscale or poor, but worse in the poorer areas. Coming soon to a country we love.
To: originalbuckeye
Now that the Supt. understands such predators are out there I wonder if he thinks people should have a right to defend themselves.
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posted on
07/09/2010 10:45:35 AM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: originalbuckeye
Contrast this “rage” when a cop is killed with the complete lack thereof when a cop murders an innocent civilian.
But don’t worry. There is no link...
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posted on
07/09/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT
by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: paul51
Now that the Supt. understands such predators are out there I wonder if he thinks people should have a right to defend themselves. Reason will never change the mind of someone who did not use reason to make up his mind in the first place.
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posted on
07/09/2010 10:51:14 AM PDT
by
Talisker
(When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
To: originalbuckeye
This should outrage everyone. What should also outrage everyone is the fact that the shooter has had 21 arrests, one for shooting his own brother back in 2006, and he was still out on the streets.
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posted on
07/09/2010 10:54:57 AM PDT
by
Southside_Chicago_Republican
("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
To: Filo
Are you referring to the recent ‘involuntary manslaughter’ verdict in the Oakland case?
To: originalbuckeye
Are you referring to the recent involuntary manslaughter verdict in the Oakland case?
That and many, many more instances of cops literally getting away with murder.
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posted on
07/09/2010 10:58:02 AM PDT
by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: Filo
Example of such a “murder”? Im sure you can supply examples of sad mistakes, tragic errors, and poor training, which guys liky you love to exploit,,,, but few “murders”.
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posted on
07/09/2010 10:58:20 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
To: DesertRhino
Example of such a murder? Im sure you can supply examples of sad mistakes, tragic errors, and poor training, which guys liky you love to exploit,,,, but few murders.
No, they are examples of murder. Poor training and bad attitudes might be contributing factors, but a cop killing an innocent without cause is still murder regardless of what the apologists claim.
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posted on
07/09/2010 11:00:34 AM PDT
by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
My outrage is directed against the fact that there seems to be a consensus amongst those who knew the shooter that he is mentally ill and yet he doesn’t seem to have been adequately treated or been incarcerated for being a danger to himself and others....
To: originalbuckeye
"... The 11-year police veteran was still in uniform in the facility's parking lot when Brewer approached him from behind and reached for the officer's weapon, according to police. During a struggle, Brewer grabbed Soderberg's handgun and shot the office."
Truly awful, but all the officers I see in Nevada and California are using Serpa retention holsters and have been for some time.
To: sinsofsolarempirefan
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posted on
07/09/2010 11:08:36 AM PDT
by
Southside_Chicago_Republican
("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
To: Filo
What I see is a complete lack of outrage when police are murdered. In Oakland, the community rallied behind the murderer who killed several officers.
In Chicago, there is no outrage in the community over this killing, but there is plenty of outrage over cases of police brutality. There was no outrage in the community when another officer was killed earlier this year and there was no outrage in the community when another Chicago officer was robbed of his gun, badge and wallet moments after his squad crashed while responding to a call. The officer had suffered a broken neck and severe spinal injuries, but one of the fine members of the community went into the car and moved the severely injured officer, making his spinal injuries much worse so he could rob an injured man.
Just as another example. There was plenty of outrage over Rodney King’s beating, but where was the outrage over Reginald Denny’s life altering beating by rioters? Where was the outrage when his attackers were set free?
To: The KG9 Kid
Maybe that will be the nationwide standard now. I hadn’t heard of this before now. Great idea.
To: Filo
Citing Oakland as “murder” is stupidity. A poorly trained and equipped officer intended to fire a taser and grabbed his similarly shaped pistol. It was a mistake borne of that terrible training. Those are never supposed to be worn in a location that can lead to such a mistake.
Outrageously bad training by BART Police,,yes, Poor supervision by his Sergeant, yes,,,, manslaughter, yes,, massive lawsuit, yes. BUT not the slightest intent to do anything but an honest cop trying to arrest a guy anyone can see needed to be stopped.
Not even the same as someone who *sets out* to commit murder.
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posted on
07/09/2010 11:14:47 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
To: MediaMole
What I see is a complete lack of outrage when police are murdered. In Oakland, the community rallied behind the murderer who killed several officers.
And you wonder why that is when the police can murder civilians with impunity?
Do you really expect the victims to have sympathy for the jackboots?
In those "counter" examples you cite, were the police outraged at all, or did they make excuses for their brethren? Poor training, chaotic situation, lack of experience, etc?
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posted on
07/09/2010 11:19:24 AM PDT
by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: originalbuckeye
This thread was about a local leader who correctly said that the community should be outraged that this decent sounding man was murdered in cold blood. 18 witnesses came out to say what they saw. That can be rare in some neighborhoods,,,, so it sounds like they were outraged.
But it’s weird that such a story instantly brings out knee-jerk cop hatred in some. Nothing in *this story* should have brought such animosities to the front of anyones mind.
It’s a strange little subculture with some conservatives to instantly hate all cops. Nobody should slavishly support cops no matter what, but reflexive dislike is more in line with a leftist WTO protester type.
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posted on
07/09/2010 11:24:57 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
To: DesertRhino
Citing Oakland as murder is stupidity.
No, any finding but murder is stupidity. Mehserle had his taser out, put it away, pulled out his gun and fired but we're expected to believe that he made a mistake? Really?
A poorly trained and equipped officer intended to fire a taser and grabbed his similarly shaped pistol. It was a mistake borne of that terrible training. Those are never supposed to be worn in a location that can lead to such a mistake.
Apologist, boot-licking nonsense.
Outrageously bad training by BART Police,,yes, Poor supervision by his Sergeant, yes,,,, manslaughter, yes,, massive lawsuit, yes. BUT not the slightest intent to do anything but an honest cop trying to arrest a guy anyone can see needed to be stopped.
So it's perfectly okay to use a taser on a person who is on his belly, isn't struggling, is in cuffs and is under the control of two other cops eh? Brilliant. You must be a cop.
Not even the same as someone who *sets out* to commit murder.
Murder 2 would be adequate although I still think a reasonable jury (with a reasonable judge) could have used the facts mentioned above to find murder 1.
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posted on
07/09/2010 11:25:36 AM PDT
by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: paul51
“Now that the Supt. understands such predators are out there I wonder if he thinks people should have a right to defend themselves.”
Mayor Daley will use this incident to further restrict guns. Since this happened to an armed officer of the law he will argue that if it were a private citizen the gun would have been easier to take away and use. You know the twisted logic they use.
To: Filo
Contrast this rage when a cop is killed with the complete lack thereof when a cop murders an innocent civilian.
What kind of leftist lying freak are you?
Ya think the Bart cop intentionally murdered this guy in broad day light in front of all his co-workers and dozens of by-standers?
The Bart cop was in the process of performing his job, going after thugs on a train...He made a huge terrible mistake and will serve time in prison...It was not intentional murder, you AH.
Your criminal piece of sh*t in Chicago was a violent known felon, that went after and INTENTIONALLY MURDERED this cop....
You AH....
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posted on
07/09/2010 11:32:04 AM PDT
by
dragnet2
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