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ObamaCare: Dream Turned Nightmare
IBD Editorials ^ | July 9, 2010 | Investors Business Daily staff

Posted on 07/09/2010 5:41:03 PM PDT by Kaslin

Health Reform: Key provisions of the president's health care reform are about to take effect. Don't expect any of it to be pretty.

It turns out that — as predicted by health experts, and reported on this page — ObamaCare will make health insurance premiums rise rather than fall. This and other unpleasant truths are revealed in a new report from two Republican senators, which charges that "when measured against the administration's own stated goals, the new health law fails to address the top health care concerns of the American people."

Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and John Barrasso of Wyoming are the only two members of the U.S. Senate with M.D.s, and their prognosis in the report, titled "Bad Medicine: a Check-up on the New Federal Health Law," is far from good.

"Independent experts have found that the new health law will increase the cost of health insurance and health care services," the two doctor-senators say, noting the Congressional Budget Office concludes that "premiums for millions of American families in 2016 will be 10%-13% higher than they otherwise would be. This represents a $2,100 increase per family, compared with the status quo."

Two thousand dollars more? Did something hidden in the 3,000 pages of the ObamaCare bill, which the White House and leading congressional Democrats moved heaven and earth to get passed, make those evil health insurers even greedier?

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deathcare; deathpanels; demclowns; democrat; democratsobama; healthcare; healthcarerationing; impeachobama; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare; socialism

1 posted on 07/09/2010 5:41:05 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The only place Obamacare would make sense is at Disneyland.


2 posted on 07/09/2010 5:46:41 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Kaslin
"This is the power of Barack Obamma!"

M. Obama
3 posted on 07/09/2010 5:47:17 PM PDT by Fred (We are doomed)
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To: Kaslin; Gapplega; MestaMachine; ElkGroveDan; ZULU; rodguy911; Attention Surplus Disorder; ...

Obama’s DeathCare reminds me of Nazi Germany and the elimination of select segments of the population. The coming genocide of the elderly and disabled by Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s Death Panels will usher in evil like this country has never seen. Count on it.


4 posted on 07/09/2010 5:47:55 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Kaslin

REPEAL IT!!!


5 posted on 07/09/2010 5:49:16 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: All

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6 posted on 07/09/2010 5:49:36 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: ExTexasRedhead

And because of his strong roots in Islam, the Jews of this country should be wary as well.


7 posted on 07/09/2010 5:52:21 PM PDT by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: Kaslin
... uninsured aged 19-34... Twenty-somethings are discriminated against under ObamaCare. ...

Karma for Obama supporters.

8 posted on 07/09/2010 5:55:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Kaslin
Blue Cross has already jacked my premiums by 33% because of my 'birthday'. Birthday my @ss. Stashing money to pay for the future under Pelozi's nightmare is more like it. I am not going to be able to pay for it much longer, but of course that is the plan. Get your commie boot off of my neck.

I despise the parisitical morons in DC. Leeches. Lying, blood sucking vampires.

Seriously - outside of faith, how are you supposed to hope for the future under this regime? What will your reward for hard work be?

9 posted on 07/09/2010 5:56:47 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Kaslin

The sole goal of Obamacare is to drive private enterprise out of the health insurance business so the government will be “forced” to become the insurer of last resort. It’s very well designed for its purpose.

This is the “find out what’s in it” stage Pelosi spoke of when she said we had to pass it so we could find out what’s in it.


10 posted on 07/09/2010 5:57:55 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: arkady_renko

You just sort of recalibrate your hope include a future where we’re freed of this infestation.


11 posted on 07/09/2010 6:01:20 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Kaslin
Obama grew up on something far left of the Disney Channel.

Oops...mistake! He didn't grow up...he is still breastfeeding on the same pap! And offering us a chance to suck on that teat!

Thx Lil Barky, but no...grow some big round ones and enter the grownup world!

12 posted on 07/09/2010 6:02:46 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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To: Fred

OMG - the Urban Dictionary gets it right.


13 posted on 07/09/2010 6:02:46 PM PDT by P.O.E. ("Danger is My Beer" - Rev. Dr. Fred Lane)
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To: Kaslin
"Independent experts have found that the new health law will increase the cost of health insurance and health care services," the two doctor-senators say, noting the Congressional Budget Office concludes that "premiums for millions of American families in 2016 will be 10%-13% higher than they otherwise would be. This represents a $2,100 increase per family, compared with the status quo."

Obama ran for President on a promising us a $2500 health care cost reduction. Can we impeach him now?

14 posted on 07/09/2010 6:12:49 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Kaslin

It’s easy to dismiss a report by 2 Republican senators as being a partisan hatchet job - just as it’s easy to dismiss the cheers of Unions (once they got themselves exempted) as partisan and self-serving. Sadly, once this monstrosity fully kicks in everyone will see for themselves what everyone who isn’t a brainwashed Obamist was talking about.

Last I saw, something in the range of 60% of the public want the healthcare bill repealed, and they haven’t even felt it’s impact yet. This number will only rise. Even those idiots who support Obama just because he’s a democrat or solely because he’s a member of their particular ethnic group will have to admit it’s a nightmare in the making.

In a legal challenge, the ONLY thing the Obama administration can cling to is really sketchy whining about the Commerce Clause, and I just don’t see any way that will be a convincing argument. If we’re lucky, it might even trigger a review of power-grabs Congress has committed in the past with only the thinnest of references to any actual power granted by the Constitution.


15 posted on 07/09/2010 6:20:38 PM PDT by COgamer
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Unfortunately we’ll have to wait till January 2011, when we return to the majority


16 posted on 07/09/2010 6:20:38 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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Serious question. Why is this thing not in front of SCOTUS yet being decided on??


17 posted on 07/09/2010 6:25:28 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Exactly right! I am a physician and have been reviewing the Plan. There’s no question that healthcare will “crash and burn” within about 6 years and will need rescue, by - you guessed it - the Federal Government.

The Feds will sub-out most of the administration of the single-payer system to very large companies, perhaps on a regional basis. The Feds will call the shots, the companies will take their “cut” and both will blame the doctors and hospitals for the inevitable rationing of care. When this day comes, we will all cease to be “citizens” of the USA. We will instead by “subjects” - dependent on the largesse of the Federal Government for our health and well-being.

And remember: if you are “unproductive” in the eyes of the government, costing them more in healthcare costs and social security than you “contribute”, you are better off dead, “for the benefit of all”.


18 posted on 07/09/2010 6:26:22 PM PDT by imperator1
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To: Jeff Chandler

Good observation. And they’re the ones slated to be paying for his various “stimuli” and czarist actions for decades to come.


19 posted on 07/09/2010 6:28:16 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“The coming genocide of the elderly”

Nancy might want to be careful. She’s 70.


20 posted on 07/09/2010 6:30:09 PM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: Kaslin

The analysis of increased costs under Obamacare doesn’t even cover half the story: INCREASED TAXES TO PAY FOR THE ALBATROSS!


21 posted on 07/09/2010 6:37:04 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: rickb308

“...Nancy might want to be careful. She’s 70...”

I would add that she’s 70 and, obviously proven to the American people that she’s senile and quite evil.


22 posted on 07/09/2010 6:40:07 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: beethovenfan

Ditto!


23 posted on 07/09/2010 6:51:06 PM PDT by b4its2late (The Lord made man before woman to give him time to think of an answer for her first question.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We already have Republicans who refuse to state that they will repeal it. Evil knows no party.


24 posted on 07/09/2010 7:16:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Any gutless, spineless, eunuch Republican that will not repeal the second Holocaust must be voted out in disgrace. They’re on a power trip and part of Obama’s Gestapo.


25 posted on 07/09/2010 7:19:04 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Kaslin

That is why it is called Obamascare the crappy kinda of healthcare that is native to Ciba. thanks so much Obozo. Thanks for nothing you good for nothing. Go back to Kenya and stay there you fricking moron


26 posted on 07/09/2010 7:19:29 PM PDT by hondact200 ( Lincoln Freed the Enslaved. Obama Enslaves the Free. Obama is Americas Greatest Threat)
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To: Kaslin

I just saw an ad for an Atty General candidate (for GA), Sam Olen, I think, and one of his points was he would lead a lawsuit against Obamacare.

I was so glad to hear someone actually campaigning on that!


27 posted on 07/09/2010 7:20:06 PM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermantor - 2012 - www.hermancain.com)
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To: Kaslin
"Unfortunately we’ll have to wait till January 2011, when we return to the majority"

It can't happen soon enough!!!! I just hope it does happen, I don't know if the country can survive much more of these fools.

28 posted on 07/09/2010 7:24:44 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Psycho_Bunny

My premiuim just jumped 20% last month.

FFFFFUUUBBBOOO!!!!!


29 posted on 07/09/2010 7:27:08 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: imperator1

Modified Marx:

“From each according to his ability, to each according to OUR needs”.


30 posted on 07/09/2010 7:35:39 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

ObamaCare was intended from the get-go to become a nightmare.


31 posted on 07/09/2010 7:40:01 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

In spades!


32 posted on 07/09/2010 8:08:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our Troops, and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: rickb308; ExTexasRedhead

Ah, but the elite always exempt themselves from the laws they pass for us common proles. Our ruling class is so important that it must have the best of everything.


33 posted on 07/09/2010 9:19:11 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Obama’s DeathCare reminds me of Nazi Germany and the elimination of select segments of the population. The coming genocide of the elderly and disabled by Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s Death Panels will usher in evil like this country has never seen. Count on it.


True. But this time we’ll take a whole lot of the evil

bastards down. They’d better have their Fuherbunkers!


34 posted on 07/09/2010 10:13:55 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

What tastes better? Soylent Red or Solylent Green?


35 posted on 07/09/2010 10:34:36 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Conservatives are producers. Liberals are parasites)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I don’t know...tell me. It sounds like I’ll get a kick out of the answer.


36 posted on 07/09/2010 11:25:12 PM PDT by unkus
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To: beethovenfan

I would only add one word. NOW! Repeal it NOW!


37 posted on 07/10/2010 7:43:13 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Hand out pocket Constitutions to everyone you can")
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To: Kaslin
Dream turned nightmare

Wrong.

The Dream is alive and well.

It's just that most people do not understand what The Dream is.

38 posted on 07/10/2010 7:46:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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To: Jim Noble

The dream is like the title says a Nightmare


39 posted on 07/10/2010 7:47:37 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
The dream is like the title says a Nightmare

Well, yes, The Dream IS a nightmare for normal Americans.

But it is wrong to say The Dream "turned into a nightmare".

Its nightmarish quality is the whole point of it.

40 posted on 07/10/2010 7:54:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Betrayed-Patients-Physicians-License/dp/0918339367/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278773843&sr=8-1-spell


41 posted on 07/10/2010 8:10:59 AM PDT by mo
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Ummmm.... The reason it reminds you of Nazi Germany is because it is modeled after Nazi Germany. Seriously.


42 posted on 07/10/2010 1:30:25 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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