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To: heiss
J category (mostly au pairs etc) is more than 350,000. They are temporary work permits, the au pairs leave the US in a year or so. This is totally non-issue to the debate here.

I don't think you read the article or perhaps you didn't comprehend it. First the J category visa contains more than just or "mostly au pairs." The number includes doctors, teachers, etc. That aside, let's take a look at the figures.

951,247 --That is the number of PERMANENT work permits given in the form of green cards to working-age immigrants over the 12-month period. Au pairs do not get green cards. These green cards are the most insidious aspect. Every year, our federal government hands out PERMANENT access to U.S. jobs to nearly a million foreign adults through our legal immigration system.

947,340-- That is the number of new TEMPORARY work permits given to foreign workers who were getting them for the FIRST time during the most recent reported 12 months.

1,898,587 -- That is the total number of separate foreign citizens who were either getting a new temporary work permit or getting a permanent green card. Our federal government had the choice to not bring in a single one of these competing workers. Instead, it gave out nearly 1.9 million new work permits to 1.9 million separate foreign workers.

1.5 million a year--This somewhat smaller number counts how many of the 1.9 million had not already been working in the United States. The U.S. Office of Immigration Statistics reports that 57.9% of adult green card recipients were already working in the U.S. The feds had the choice not to give them permanent access to U.S. jobs but did, to the detriment of U.S. workers. Nonetheless, most of them are not technically "new recipients of foreign-worker visas."

But about 100,000 to 250,000 of them were new recipients because they were working here illegally and had not previously had a work permit.

The CIS chart provides the summarized data. Notice that the total number of work authorizations totalled 1,443,265 to 1,593,605 with the variance due to illegals who changed status and received green cards within the US.

The end result is a range between 1,443,265 and 1,593,605 who were new foreign workers with the legal right to take a U.S. job. A nice round, medium number is 1.5 million which -- as the above stats and math show -- is a highly-sourced, credible approximation of the magnitude of damage the federal immigration programs are doing to unemployed Americans.

125,000 a month --1.5 million divided by 12 gives you 125,000 a month.

All of this is well sourced using USG numbers. I know Roy Beck (NumbersUSA) personally as well as the folks at CIS. I work with them often. The idea that these numbers are "fishy" is pure nonsense. Roy, Mark Krikorian, Steve Camarota, et. al. testify often before Congress. They are experts in the area of immigration and have been for more than 20 years.

The Left has gotten all exercised about Roy's numbers, but they can't deny them since the source in the USG.

And these numbers don't include the conservative estimate of 8 million illegals in our work force or the 500,000 a year who enter illegally.

42 posted on 07/12/2010 11:59:43 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

You merely copy-paste data from numbersusa. It is not proof of anything. It is a claim by an advocacy group.
The text in the gov website says J category is mostly au pairs, doctors, teachers, summer lifeguards and high school exhange students. J category people are not taking anybody’s job.

US brings in about 130,000 H1 visas annually (not per month), in addition to unskilled agriworkers etc. This thread was about legal skilled workers, e.g. mainly H1 people. Total number of all people given some sort of visa or green card may approach 125k per month (counts in family members of visa recipients, au pairs, exchange students, investors etc).


45 posted on 07/12/2010 12:37:36 PM PDT by heiss
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