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To: driftdiver
DOJ study found that when force is used by cops it is most often used inappropriately.

Which study was that? The one that pointed out that "less than half of 1 percent of an estimated 44 million people who had face-to-face contact with a police officer were threatened with or actually experienced force." OR perhaps you meant this "DOJ Study: http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/ccpuf.pdf"

Oh no, you couldn't have meant that one either, because it doesn't say anything close to the paranoid delusion that you keep rambling.

215 posted on 07/13/2010 9:12:19 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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It seems like some people in this thread conveniently missed some witness accounts. I wonder why that is...

http://www.lvrj.com/news/man-did-not-pull-gun-on-police-at-costco—lawyer-says-98279344.html

Pair corroborate elements of official account of man’s death


But the 72-year-old man, in addition to another witness reached Monday, said they did see the weapon and did see Scott reach for it.

Police have said that Scott drew a pistol and pointed it at officers after they ordered him to raise his hands and lie on the ground. Both witnesses gave their accounts to homicide investigators, they said.

The 72-year-old man heard police say, “Get on the ground. Get on the ground.” He saw Scott facing the officers, who were between Scott and the store entrance.

The man said he saw Scott reach with his right hand and pull out what appeared to be a gun in a zippered holster. He recognized the holster, he said, because he has one like it. Officers then fired, and the man saw the gun fall out of Scott’s hand. The witness did not see Scott point the gun at officers.

“I feel sorry for the guy, but he just made a dumb move,” the 72-year-old man said.

The second witness, who also spoke on the condition that his name not be used, was standing near the entrance when he said he heard police shout, “Get down on the ground. Get down now.”

He turned to see why police were yelling, he said, and saw Scott reaching for what appeared to be a pistol in his waistband. The witness said he recognized the butt of the gun and immediately turned toward his wife and covered her as they dove to the ground.

“He was definitely reaching for the gun,” the man said.

The witness turned away before he could see whether Scott fully removed the weapon from his waistband and didn’t see the shooting. He said it did not appear that Scott was trying to “quick-draw” the weapon on the officers.

He heard gunshots soon after. The witness said he has been struggling with how the incident unfolded.

“It’s so totally bizarre to me” that the man would grab the weapon in front of the officers, the witness said.

He added that he doesn’t believe the man deserved to die for his actions, as he has heard other people say. But he said he does believe the officers were justified in their response.



216 posted on 07/13/2010 9:24:43 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998

Are your black boots cutting off the circulation to your head? Before calling someone a liar you should at least ask for clarification.

It was the same study that found the majority of cops admitted to lying to cover up the “improper conduct” of fellow officers.


312 posted on 07/13/2010 11:26:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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