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Gay-to-straight camp run by local man praised, panned
http://www2.dailyprogress.com ^ | July 10, 2010 | By Brandon Shulleeta

Posted on 07/13/2010 2:24:11 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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This is a good article. The idea that some how learning to control sexual desires is some how harmful is ridiculous. We all control some sort of desires and it is dangerous to put forth the idea into the mainstream that one must indulge their every desire and sexual fantasy to be happy. This is not only not true but is harmful and I believe leads to more violence and indulgence in risky sexual practices.
1 posted on 07/13/2010 2:24:14 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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Dr. Jack Drescher, of the American Psychiatric Association, said setting out to change others’ sexual orientation can be dangerous.

The lavender mafia took over the APA ages ago.

Which is more dangerous, encouraging someone to fight some of their urges and come to terms with them (adulters too must overcome instinct), or encouraging them to get plastic surgery and hormone treatments to pretend to be someone hermaphroditic?

There are transexuals who regret having the surgery (some even commit suicide because it didn't make them HAPPY).

Encouraging self-destructive behavior is not a good thing.

2 posted on 07/13/2010 2:30:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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“Many scholars argue there’s little proof gay-to-straight therapy works. They say such programs can, instead, inflict deep psychological wounds.”

NOTHING compared to the deep psychological wounds they inflict on themselves and their families when they “embrace their homosexuality”.

Bravo Sierra.

Colonel, USAFR


3 posted on 07/13/2010 2:53:41 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: a fool in paradise
The lavender mafia took over the APA ages ago.

Didn't the APA decide at one point that man-boy relationships wern't necessarily bad? They relented after a lot of publicity and pressure.

Don't want to give away the game too early, you know.

4 posted on 07/13/2010 2:54:53 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: a fool in paradise

If he believes it can be dangerous then it would follow that attempting to dissuade anyone from a sexual target of desire would be dangerous. It is stupid and idiotic. No where but in the realm of dumbass psychobabble would such a stupid statement be accepted. It continues to amaze me how such a sexually “liberated” group feigns as if they know nothing about sex at all.


5 posted on 07/13/2010 2:54:55 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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“...some were molested...”???? Really? Ya’think? Get a grip. By definition, they ALL were.


6 posted on 07/13/2010 2:59:13 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Yeah but that doesn’t matter. It is about being “true” to what ever their sexual desire is. This issue is an example of how fuzzy “science” has become. Psychology is really just a political tool of the radicals that have managed to move into power. People would be surprised at the number of perverts and mental cases (not just homosexual) that reign in the Psychology depts.


7 posted on 07/13/2010 3:01:25 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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If he believes it can be dangerous then it would follow that attempting to dissuade anyone from a sexual target of desire would be dangerous.

Go read up on the "Sex Positive" agenda and teachings.

They seek to end all moral judgements over ALL sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, martial status, number, or species of partner(s). They see sex as a birthright to be enjoyed by everyone at every age.

Positive.org has a "just say yes" campaign to teens questioning having sex.

The question of if homosexuality et al are "biological" or "conditional" matter not to the psychobabblists. They don't believe in a concept of "morality". It matters not what drives someone to do something, let them do it ANYWAY.

8 posted on 07/13/2010 3:09:05 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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I know what their goal is. I’ve been following and fighting for the past 15 or so years. The sexual liberalism is dangerous and destructive and has cost us trillions when you weight the social impact.


9 posted on 07/13/2010 3:12:02 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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They reign in the media as well.

If don’t ask, don’t tell, is such a confining policy, why do the homosexual anchors remain closeted? I’m sure home viewers would like to know why they push for this and the same sex marriage laws so much.


10 posted on 07/13/2010 3:12:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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Afraid I have to go with the Diceman theory on this one...
11 posted on 07/13/2010 3:14:18 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Maelstorm

Is this kind of counseling covered by Obamacare?


12 posted on 07/13/2010 3:27:58 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Maelstorm

All behavior is learned. Every behavior can be abated. The human possesses a spirit and a soul and has free will. Some habits, long engrained can be exceptionally difficult but nothing is an impossibility.

The real question is WHY should someone change or alter any behavior at all?

The only answer, the only definitive is: In obedience to God. Take God out of the answer and there becomes NO behavior you cannot self justify.

Homosexual behavior is simply a powerful conditioning reinforcement agent, and very public and hard to conceal. Which is why the fags wish to have it accepted, because their other sins are easier to hide.

An ex gay may struggle with the conditioning forever, just as an ex drunk may or drug addict or even a compulsive liar or any number of neurotic behaviors.

There is a difference between attraction and execution. And a difference between embracing and repenting. And time and alternative behaviors will alter anything... in due time.

Pray for these folks to keep up their good works.


13 posted on 07/13/2010 3:33:37 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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Why doesn’t the gay community address fundamental logic about learned behaviors. Looking at Aristotle’s idea of habituation and definition of virtue is still relevant today.

The size of the brain and areas that become more developed are those that are used....say in mathematics or language. Brains of scientists show the massive development which corresponds directly to the experiences of that individual—such as practicing music and math and spacial games.

Language acquired by children is directly related to the complexities of the language/s they are exposed to in a secure, loving environment in the early childhood. Romanian orphans had vast areas of underdevelopment of the brain because of lack of stimulation. Large areas of the brain were not mapped. Most died from lack of stimulation but the ones that do survive are retarded in most areas and dysfunctional at best.

All behaviors are learned or encouraged or discouraged by active or passiveness in the environment of the home or institutions where they spend their formative years. Repeated enough times, certain things become habitual. Emotional needs not being fulfilled lead to obsessive, abnormal behaviors. Sucking a thumb will occur in babies who are not allowed to suckle enough in the first two years of life. Babies not rocked or held enough resort to rocking in their beds.

Natural Law designs people to be a certain way and if allowed no interference from this design, no abnormalities occur, such as sexual aberations.

Certain cultures had rampant homosexuality (Spartans) because they promoted it. If the culture never condemned it and actually promotes it, then most practiced it. But that always includes pedophilia. In Sparta, boys were initiated into homosexuality at a young age by older men. Heterosexual sex was encouraged for procreation only but society had to put social encouragement, otherwise the males weren’t interested in women. Women had low status and male beauty was glorified in the arts, more than woman’s.

The habituation of sexual acts created the desire and need, and the object of one’s sexual desire was determined before the natural sexual desire at puberty was established.

In the tribal cultures where homosexuality was not tolerated, they had little, if any, problems with homosexual activity. Even Kinsey said that lifestyle was just that—a lifestyle and that it was fluid (changeable).

It is like the Tango Makes There.....the big lie that penguins can be (naturally) homosexual. A female penguin broke up the duo and ended the so-called “homosexual” pair which was caused by unnatural habitat.


14 posted on 07/13/2010 4:34:34 PM PDT by savagesusie
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Good news that gayness can be cured.


15 posted on 07/13/2010 4:54:36 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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“Good news that gayness can be cured.’

Any sin can be repented of. Repented includes turning from the sin, not indulging in it any more; not just being sorry you did it.

Some sins are harder to shake than others. But God Himself can uproot the worst of sins.

Those struggling with any sort of sin, sexual or otherwise, should be aware of that. It is encouraging to me. There is always a way out.


16 posted on 07/13/2010 5:50:39 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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[Dr. Jack Drescher, of the American Psychiatric Association]“In a way, they are screwing with people’s heads,” Drescher said. “You have to be more careful, when you’re screwing around with people’s heads or their sex lives.”

Screwing with people's heads? Is this really how the intelligentsia elite talk? The guy's a mutt with cr@p for brains.

17 posted on 07/13/2010 7:16:44 PM PDT by fwdude
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Looks like a great article and some interesting comments too. (I haven't read it yet - will tonight - just wanted to get it out there to the list.)

There is nothing the homosexual agenda pushers hate more than the truth that no one is born "gay" and that People Can indeed Change.

18 posted on 07/13/2010 7:22:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Yeah and they sure as hell don’t mind screwing with the heads of little impressionable children. These people aren’t scientists, they are propagandists that specialize in making you disbelieve your own eyes and instincts so as to serve their political aims.


19 posted on 07/13/2010 8:48:27 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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“Efforts to change sexual orientation are unlikely to be successful and involve some risk.”

And yet they'll try to rehabilitate child molesters and then turn them loose on society again and again.

20 posted on 07/14/2010 6:41:03 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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