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Catholics and immigration in Arizona
guardian.co.uk ^ | 6-28-10 | Crista Cloutier

Posted on 07/13/2010 7:42:37 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: lewislynn

It is not, nor has it ever been illegal to pay employees in cash, nor was he convicted on any such charge.


41 posted on 07/13/2010 11:28:13 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: posterchild
[ As a worldwide organization why would the RCC feel the need to shift it’s ‘voters’ from one jurisdiction to another? ]

Because they want/appreciate more power in the other venue..

42 posted on 07/13/2010 11:29:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: John Leland 1789
It is not, nor has it ever been illegal to pay employees in cash,
I didn't say it was. As long as there is documentation for wages, deductions etc.
nor was he convicted on any such charge.
OK.
43 posted on 07/13/2010 11:39:31 PM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
"The Catholic Church’s stand on illegal immigration has been consistent since about the 4th century AD."

I had no idea how long the Church had that mindset. I know they have run an underground railroad for Illegals for decades. There was an article here not long ago about the Church on Catalina Island offering space for a Mexican Consulate to issue their Matricular IDs from.

44 posted on 07/13/2010 11:51:23 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Don Corleone

I’ll be happy to flame you a soon as I figure out why.

What do you mean? I think most of ‘em aren’t so much “moles” as “useful idiots”, myself.

Of course, it has been suggested that I am a useless idiot, so maybe I should look up to them?


45 posted on 07/14/2010 4:18:54 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Their “illegal” status is the primary accusation against Mexican immigrants. But Father Charlie argues that this is a bureaucratic documentation problem, not a criminal act. “We are talking about paperwork, not a crime.”

Wonder what he thinks about counterfiters?

The illegal alien issue and the failure to deal with homosexual predators in collars is the Catholic Church’s counterpoint to the mainstream Protestant Church’s similar views on illegal invaders, homosexuals and gay clerics.

Christianity is in trouble at the very moment we are facing attacks by Islam. Those clerics who voice such virulently anti-American views should be removed from office. If they are not, their parishones should cease supporting their churches.


46 posted on 07/14/2010 7:18:54 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: NoLibZone
"We are talking about paperwork, not a crime. By calling an undocumented worker a criminal, you put them in the same category as a rapist or burglar. This is our lowest moment. To vilify people for who they are, not what they have done."

Sorry Father Charlie, I know you'd love to fill your churches and schools with the many illegals here in America so that the gov. would give you more of our taxes to "care for the poor,"

"These people ARE criminals by the very fact that they ignored our border and broke into our country.

If they broke into your home, are they merely the newly "undocumented owners" or burglars?

Calling them "illegal aliens" is exactly what our government laws call them so quit with the euphemisms of being "undocumented migrants or immigrants."

To further dispute your claim to truly care for these people, why do you not demand that their own governments provide the jobs, housing, education and health care that you are demanding American citizens provide?

I may be a bit mistaken here, but I do believe that your church has been in their country for centuries; why haven't you and your faith been demanding a better life for these poor people, or is it merely, "Que sara, sara."

47 posted on 07/14/2010 7:33:19 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: NoLibZone

Please consider this statement from the Magisterium:

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.


48 posted on 07/14/2010 8:44:19 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Mad Dawg

Mad Dawg!

Ha! There you are. It’s Great to see you.

Your FRiend.

RD


49 posted on 07/14/2010 8:48:52 AM PDT by reagandemocrat (Got your bumper stickers here.)
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To: reagandemocrat

Hi backatcha!

Nice post! (where’s that statement from? I was drawing a blank, but I didn’t look hard.)

What’s amazing to me is the failure of some clergyd00ds to check the Church’s teaching BEFORE they run their moufs.


50 posted on 07/14/2010 9:30:42 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Pilfered from Section 2241, Catechism of the Catholic Church—vatican website:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a4.htm

Cheers.


51 posted on 07/14/2010 9:50:40 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: NoLibZone

Harry Reid claims there are no illegals working in construction in Nevada

http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=12793540


52 posted on 07/14/2010 1:47:31 PM PDT by Fred (Suspend All Immigration Until Unemployment is Reduced to 5%)
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