Our government encouraged people to come here for 20 years without threat of prosecution. Even today, it is easy to come and stay. I don't think the laws are really there either. Being here illegally is a misdemeanor for the first incident.
The government allowed them to buy real estate, put their kids in our schools, open bank accounts.
We are the government. Since we enjoyed cheap building labor and cheap fruit, we indirectly encouraged it too. Not you in particular, but us as a people.
Once the border is secure, we will need workers. Remember, we only have 1.2 kids for every two people so we are not replenishing our own people. We have Mexicans as our immigrant/slave culture. Europe has North African muslims. But the dynamic is the same.
I agree on employers too, but again it's complicated. OSHA can fine $10K per incident if a 16 year old kid puts trash in a hydraulic dumpster at the local grocery store. A fine of $10K per illegal would put the onus on employers and probably fix the problem quickly. No where to work-no need to cross. Problem is, you have to give the employer a way to verify. Biometric? Then we all get it or illegals will just forge our required docs and ID.
I'd like to send them all back. In my business, I might be an instant millionaire. But I don't want my kids to have to fight a civil war that could be avoided. I also don't want my dad's neighborhood to loose 80% of its residents overnight. A lot of places in the south will look like Detroit or Dearborn.
Again. No amnesty either. No path, no special status. Write them a ticket for that misdemeanor and lets get the problem solved.
Not enforcing the law is not encouragement. It is dereliction. That doesn't excuse the problem or those who have violated our laws.
A misdemeanor is a crime and the violator is supposed to be deported. And there are plenty of felonies being committed as well including ID theft, failure to pay taxes, falsification of employment documents, tax evasion, etc. One of the biggest "encouragements" was the 1986 amnesty bill, which just encouraged more illegal immigration so people could come expecting another amnesty.
The government allowed them to buy real estate, put their kids in our schools, open bank accounts.
LOL. "Allowed" is just a ridiculous word to use. We failed to fully enforce our laws. A few were prosecuted, but most were not. The SCOTUS (Plyler vs. Doe) ruled that schools must accept all students regardless of immigration status and were prohibited from checking it. And just because the government has done a terrible job of enforcement doesn't mean that the lawbreakers must be excused for their unlawful actions. They committed crimes and must bear the consequences.
We are the government. Since we enjoyed cheap building labor and cheap fruit, we indirectly encouraged it too. Not you in particular, but us as a people.
It is illegal for people who entered this country to work here and it is illegal for employers to hire them. That is the law. Using the rationale that since we did such a poor job of enforcing the laws, it is our fault and the lawbreakers are just victims. It is like blaming the person who left his front door unlocked allowing a thief to enter and steal his possessions. Regardless of whether the door was locked or not, the thief violated the law and should be prosecuted.
Once the border is secure, we will need workers. Remember, we only have 1.2 kids for every two people so we are not replenishing our own people. We have Mexicans as our immigrant/slave culture. Europe has North African muslims. But the dynamic is the same.
Our fertility rate is 2.06, right at replacement level. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.97% (2010 estimate), principally due to immigration.
Slave culture? Mexicans and others come to this country voluntarily seeking a better life. Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in net immigration of 1.25 million.
agree on employers too, but again it's complicated. OSHA can fine $10K per incident if a 16 year old kid puts trash in a hydraulic dumpster at the local grocery store. A fine of $10K per illegal would put the onus on employers and probably fix the problem quickly. No where to work-no need to cross. Problem is, you have to give the employer a way to verify. Biometric? Then we all get it or illegals will just forge our required docs and ID.
We already have laws against employers hiring illegals and the E-verify program is supposed to assist employers in the process. AZ has made E-verify mandatory for all businesses and it has a major impact on the hiring of illegals. They are leaving.
I'd like to send them all back. In my business, I might be an instant millionaire. But I don't want my kids to have to fight a civil war that could be avoided. I also don't want my dad's neighborhood to loose 80% of its residents overnight. A lot of places in the south will look like Detroit or Dearborn.
If we don't get a handle on this problem, you kids will be living in a third country that will be Balkanized along cultural, racial, and linguistic lines. By 2050 the Census Bureau estimates that one in three residents of this country will be Hispanic. We are being colonized.
Again. No amnesty either. No path, no special status. Write them a ticket for that misdemeanor and lets get the problem solved.
That is not the way to solve it. You only make the situation worse. Allowing people to stay and work here is amnesty period. The only ticket they should get is a one-way home.