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Raids are increasing on farms and private food-supply clubs
Grist ^ | 14 July 2010 | David Gumpert

Posted on 07/14/2010 12:49:09 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: TigersEye

Got the hog reference, Henry...

So, the girl was homeschooled... the plot gets CLEARER now.

White, Christian, Conservative, self-reliant, homeschooling to avoid leftist indoctrination...

They would indeed be a HUGE ENEMY of the left.


61 posted on 07/14/2010 1:46:30 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I was raised on raw milk. We milked cows by hand. All we eved did to it was run it through a filter to get straw out of it which might find its way into an open bucket.

Milk from commercial dairies never touches the air-- it goes from the cows udder to cooling tanks.

My Dad was a veterinarian and the milk cows were a sideline to keep us boys busy. We never solicited sales, but we had plenty which sought us out. This was two decades before raw milk became trendy.

Our favorite customer was a guy who worked in the local commercial creamery. They bought raw milk by the truckload, but wouldn't allow the employess to even buy any before pasteurization.

This guy would also bring us ice cream. Anytime they were changing flavors in the mixing tanks, they had to remove the first 10 gallons or so from the new batch because it was mixed with the old. We never knew what we would get, but it was all good. He always insisted on paying us for the milk even though we tried to trade it to him for the ice cream he brought.

His explanation was that we spent the money for feed and sweat for labor to produce the milk, but all he did was remove ice cream which would have been discarded anyway.

62 posted on 07/14/2010 1:47:36 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lorianne

Raiding farmers who sell raw milk and confiscating kid’s computers. WOW! I certainly feel SAFER!!!


63 posted on 07/14/2010 1:49:09 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: norraad; chris_bdba
Hops & (something, I forget) is a chain store liquor store around here (N.J.) that sells actual cheese made form actual live milk.

It's well worth looking for.

Like I said earlier, once you taste it and experience the health benefits you will wake up to the horror of modern Corp~Nazi America.

Jeez! And I don't mean Cheese! The only benefits of unpasteurized milk are the taste and the possibility of getting one or another of the following diseases: Campylobacter, Escherichia coli, Listeria, Salmonella, Yersinia, and Brucella. They can be especially dangerous to pregnant women, young children, and persons with compromised or suppressed immune systems.

If you're talking about "live" in the sense of any bovine cells that could still be living, they're not going to do you any good even if you drink the milk fresh enough from the cow for them to still be alive because your stomach acid and digestive enzymes will destroy them--they're not as adept at slipping by as are the bacteria mentioned above--and, even if they could make it successfully into and through the small intestine, they're not going to cross the brush border of the intestine unless you've got leaky tight junctions, in which case they could prime you for developing an allergic response.

And I'm someone who loved the raw milk at my uncle's dairy farm.
64 posted on 07/14/2010 1:50:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Lorianne

How about raiding some of the drug gangs which have caused US territory to be OFF LIMITS to American citizens!!! Oh, that’s right. That would actually be DANGEROUS!!!


65 posted on 07/14/2010 1:50:40 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: dennisw

“Way too many Federal employees where they are not needed.....”

You win, BINGO!, Right-on, etc., however you could have stopped at “Way too many Federal employees”.

The Fed was not intended to be the Fed it is.


66 posted on 07/14/2010 1:51:49 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: unixfox

During WW II we kept a couple of cows, drank the raw milk, ate the butter and ice cream. No problem, but one tubercular cow in a herd of a hundred used to infect thousands before pasteurization. It used to be called the “white plague.” After the pasteurization laws, TB is not that common any more.


67 posted on 07/14/2010 1:55:31 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Zippo44

I don’t even know what a kulak is.

But I will say this. The last Depression laid the foundation for this, now here, depression. This one has the potential to kill this country. And Obaba is in place to ‘communize’ the rest of this population.


68 posted on 07/14/2010 1:56:29 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Lorianne

This is disgusting.


69 posted on 07/14/2010 1:59:10 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: Lorianne

This story is extremely frightening to me.


70 posted on 07/14/2010 1:59:13 PM PDT by diamond6 (Pray the Rosary to defeat communism and Obamacare!!)
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To: MrB
So, the girl was homeschooled... the plot gets CLEARER now. White, Christian, Conservative, self-reliant, homeschooling to avoid leftist indoctrination...

A'yup.

In the Rawesome raid, agents made off with several thousand dollars worth of raw honey and raw dairy products.

And in a national first among such raids, agents searched a private home and made off with computers; the family's offense appears to have been that it allowed one of the raw dairy farmers to park in its driveway to distribute raw milk to area residents who had ordered it.

Raw honey? Parking? More computers confiscated?

I think I'm beginning to understand why shows like Dexter are so popular. The new century is going to require new skills.

71 posted on 07/14/2010 1:59:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Hiddigeigei

“TB is not that common any more.”

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Because they call it AIDS now.

Actually, TB is quite common in parts of the country where illegal immigration travels on foot, and their garbage tends to be very infectuous.
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72 posted on 07/14/2010 2:01:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Lorianne

They sure do make it hard to get raw milk nowadays. I know in our state you can’t legally get raw milk unless it’s from your own cow. So this lady we know who has lots of cows sells “cow shares”, and each share you buy will give you a gallon of milk a week. That way we can get the raw milk because we technically own part of the cow.


73 posted on 07/14/2010 2:01:45 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: IYAS9YAS; rhoda_penmark
raw milk is the best tasting, best for you version of milk there is.

It may be better tasting than pasteurized milk but it is in no way better for you. It doesn't matter how healthy the cows are or how clean they are. There can be many pathogens (brucella, salmonella) present in the milk that only pasteurization can eliminate and there is no way you can fully sterilize an udder. I grew up surrounded by farm families who produced their own milk and consumed it raw. My father would never let us drink it like the kids we grew up with because he understood the danger...albeit rare. One of the kids I knew came down with Malta Fever. He was just 10 years old and it almost killed him. Raw milk was the cause. He was never the same. It was a good lesson.

Raw milk doesn't need to be dealt with by storming the homes of providers however, anyone who thinks raw milk is healthier than pasteurized milk hasn't done their homework.

74 posted on 07/14/2010 2:01:57 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: TigersEye

Mr Bowman needs to identify who sent these thugs and pay him a visit.


75 posted on 07/14/2010 2:06:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: caver
I better not say what I was going to. I’ll get banned and a visit from the feds.

What were you theeeenking citizen hmmmmmmmmm? Thinking is above your paygrade and therefore doubleplusbad and not allowed.

76 posted on 07/14/2010 2:06:31 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: 506Lake

This is just one front of the war on farmers that live on their land. The goal is to depopulate the rural areas of independent self-reliant people that Jefferson said were necessary and sufficient to maintain a free society.

Monsanto and the Sierra Club happily call it “rural cleansing”. Waxman and Dingell see it as gaining the terrain for ruling the people.


77 posted on 07/14/2010 2:06:33 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: ExTxMarine

“Obviously it doesn’t affect everyone in the same manner.”

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That’s mostly because lots of people don’t have access to it.
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78 posted on 07/14/2010 2:08:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Lorianne
What's behind all these raids? They seem to stem from increasing concern at both the state and federal level about the spread of private food groups that have sprung up around the country in recent years --

The real fear the government has is the growing of a black market. It's what brought down the Soviet Union. Commerce that provided buyers what they wanted and avoided taxes. The black market will in the end bring down imperial America.

79 posted on 07/14/2010 2:09:42 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Mase

And for sure cooked vegetables are safer than raw. Be sure to only eat canned tomatoes and canned spinach. It ought to be illegal to sell raw spinach.


80 posted on 07/14/2010 2:10:04 PM PDT by Poincare
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