No, people want the government to pay for it. Before Obamacare, there were 60 million on Medicaid and 50 million on Medicaid. Willing to pay for it will not resolve the current situation with the government trying to destroy private insurance and force people to go on to a government run system. Obamacare will add 16 million to Medicaid.
Obamacare now sets the rules for what is an acceptable insurance plan taking that decision away from the individual and employers. Plans must now remove the lifetime cap, allow those with preexisting conditions to join, and enable "children" under 26 to remain on their parents plan. The net effect is increased premiums to cover the additional risk. And the government wants to cap premiums, which will bankrupt the insurance companies.
we’ll have a better system when people pay for what they want - which will better correlate with what they “need” than the present insurance debacle.
Not if the government has its way. And what do you do with the 60 million on Medicaid and the 50 million on Medicare? Many do not have the funds to pay for what they want or need?
The preferred solution is to put the power back into the patient's hands using vouchers and allowances. Right now, people don't care what something costs because they are not paying the bills. There is no incentive to save money or do comparison shopping.
“No, people want the government to pay for it.”
You are correct - but by not getting what they want under a government system, some will change their minds.
“Willing to pay for it will not resolve the current situation with the government trying to destroy private insurance and force people to go on to a government run system”
Yes it will. The private insurance industry is doomed. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, but all that will be left is for people to pay for the health care they want.
I am belaboring the point - but health insurance is not health care.
“Not if the government has its way. And what do you do with the 60 million on Medicaid and the 50 million on Medicare? Many do not have the funds to pay for what they want or need?”
If they do not have the funds to pay for what they want or need they will not get what they want or need. They may get part of what they want or need from a government system - but they will not get all of it, unless they are willing to pay for it.
The government option will fail - and we cannot (and should not want to) go back to the system we had before.
In the meantime - folks that want it and want to be in control will have to pay for their health care - either here in the US - via the black market, if need be (and there WILL be a black market) or they will have to go outside the US.
“The preferred solution is to put the power back into the patient’s hands using vouchers and allowances. Right now, people don’t care what something costs because they are not paying the bills. There is no incentive to save money or do comparison shopping.”
No, the preferred solution is for people to pay for the health care they want.
One hopes that the charitable among us will help those who truly cannot get what they need. It cannot be a government requirement or it will fail.
“No, people want the government to pay for it.”
That’s the money quote. People that don’t earn and don’t pay taxes have no concept that these things are paid for by someone. To them the government is off in D.C or their state capital and they have money. Much like that idiot on youtube talking about Obamas stash they have no idea that the government gets that money from someone.
The insurance companies won’t go bankrupt,they will simply offer other products. Their earnings will probably be hurt until they can figure a new way to make back the lost income.