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UPDATE: Admiral Allen Orders Well Opened, BP Says It Will Keep Well Closed
The Business Insider ^ | 7-18-2010 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 07/18/2010 9:33:31 AM PDT by blam

UPDATE: Admiral Allen Orders Well Opened, BP Says It Will Keep Well Closed

Gus Lubin
Jul. 18, 2010, 11:15 AM

UPDATE: BP will keep the cap closed until it fears the well is at risk, Operations Chief Doug Suttles said in a conference call this morning.

This contradicts orders from Admiral Allen to open the well and begin siphoning oil -- to avoid a possible pressure-buildup.

So who's behind the wheel? And is BP about to take a huge risk?

PREVIOUSLY: Admiral Allen has ordered BP to open the containment cap that they finally closed last Thursday, according to Bloomberg. BP will return to siphoning oil from the well, capturing more than ever before.

While changing equipment, oil will leak unimpeded into the Gulf.

But what's most worrying are signs of ongoing uncertainty about well integrity. Opening the well is a precaution against an apocalyptic ocean floor collapse:

Allowing oil to flow from the well will make the final kill procedure easier and safer, as it will lower the pressure in the reservoir and make any potential hidden leaks less risky, [Houston professor] Van Nieuwenhuise said.

In other words, the final relief well procedure will NOT be a cakewalk.

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: admiralallen; bp; gulf; leak; oilspill
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To: mojitojoe

You’re making the mistake, not he.


101 posted on 07/18/2010 4:47:52 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Texas Fossil
"It seems all the Prostitute Scientists from universities, who never drilled a well, are acting as “Chicken Little”."

How are these university scientist different from those that work for BP? They all went to the same schools and attend the same conferences. Just like university scientists, the BP scientists sit in their offices and rarely, unless in an emergency, work on the rigs.

Also, what evidence do you have to call them prostitutes?

102 posted on 07/18/2010 4:55:20 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: GAB-1955

That doesn’t mean he knows his butt from a deadeye.


103 posted on 07/18/2010 4:56:23 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: DTogo; blam
Why is it that this ONE well might cause an apocalyptic ocean floor collapse??

The more important question is, WHEN IS THE MOVIE COMING OUT?

104 posted on 07/18/2010 5:01:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Steely Tom
Where's it going to collape to?

China. Everyone knows if you dig deep enough, you end up in China.

105 posted on 07/18/2010 5:03:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: blam
["Opening the well is a precaution against an apocalyptic ocean floor collapse."]

I say we nuke it from space. It's the ony way to be sure.

106 posted on 07/18/2010 5:03:39 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Paine)
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To: blam
It's getting tough for Zero to know when to take credit.

107 posted on 07/18/2010 5:11:56 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: blam
"Allowing oil to flow from the well will make the final kill procedure easier and safer, as it will lower the pressure in the reservoir and make any potential hidden leaks less risky..."

Makes sense to me.

Better to begin taking oil (and pressure) out of that deposit while they've got a good containment cap in place, rather than risk another failure/breakdown of the wellbore or cap.

If this cap fails, they're back to square one, with an uncontrolled, super high pressure gusher to contain.

108 posted on 07/18/2010 5:12:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: UCANSEE2
China. Everyone knows if you dig deep enough, you end up in China.

Whoa.

I wonder... what's been holding it up all these years?

109 posted on 07/18/2010 5:14:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Sir:

Admiral Allen is one of the most competent military men in the United States. You don't get to be Commandant by being incompetent nor a butt-kisser. I have worked with many fine Coast Guard officers, and meeting many flag officers, and Admiral Allen is a leader of men. If he says “Ease the pressure on the cap,” and BP doesn't want to, I would give Admiral Allen the benefit of the doubt.

110 posted on 07/18/2010 5:27:43 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Steely Tom
I wonder... what's been holding it up all these years?

The Great Wall of China. They had to 'anchor' it real deep, to ensure it could not be toppled.

So, if the GOM collapes, the Great Wall of China will fall over.

111 posted on 07/18/2010 5:30:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Steely Tom
Where's it going to collape to?

I'm not a geologist or an oil drilling professional, but my picture of what's down there can be visualized as a pressurized balloon, filled with oil and gas.

As long as the balloon remains intact, and is not punctured, the forces of equilibrium hold it all together. But once a breach is created (such as by a drilling rig), it allows the oil and gas mixture to escape, thereby changing the balance of internal and external pressures.

I can visualize what would happen, should the internal gasses in the deposit escape suddenly. The internal pressure of the deposit could fall to a level much lower than the external pressure of the surrounding sea bed and the Gulf waters. In that scenario, a collapse of the deposit (sea bed) doesn't seem so far-fetched to me.

Now, any escaping gasses would likely be replaced with sea water, or seabed sludge, but I don't know how that would affect the pressure differentials.

I'll read on to see what better informed people have to say about this.

112 posted on 07/18/2010 5:31:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I will booimark this site for reading and study when I can make some time. Just ate after getting home from work. Must go to bed in less then half hour for upcoming 5AM shift.

113 posted on 07/18/2010 5:32:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: blam

I don’t get it. Are they trying to say that there is more pressure in that well now that it has been drilled and then capped than there was before they drilled it? That doesn’t compute. Why would the ocean floor be at risk of collapsing just because they drilled it?


114 posted on 07/18/2010 5:32:17 PM PDT by Eva (Aand)
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To: brytlea

Anyone remember that weird “earthquake” in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico a year or so ago?


115 posted on 07/18/2010 5:32:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous - Einstein.)
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To: GAB-1955

So would I if he worked for almost anyone besides the current president.


116 posted on 07/18/2010 5:34:07 PM PDT by John W
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To: blam
Watch This Video Before You Go Swimming On The Gulf Coast
117 posted on 07/18/2010 5:40:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: backwoods-engineer

I’m afraid that you have it exactly right. I’m waiting for a second McChrystal type of reaction to Obama’s rules of engagement. This time the enemy is oil.


118 posted on 07/18/2010 5:43:14 PM PDT by Eva (Aand)
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To: blam

Oh come on guys... you fixed it too early!!!... we still had at least 6 more weeks of media milking to do on this one!

Open the well back up so we can blame Bush some more!!!


119 posted on 07/18/2010 5:44:36 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Admiral Allen and government representatives will no doubt be involved in decision making as well.

Forgive my ignorance on this, but I thought the federal government's off shore authority only went as far as the 12 mile limit.

This is a deep water well, and is far outside the 12 mile limit, so where do the feds get their authority to involve themselves in BP's decisions?

120 posted on 07/18/2010 5:45:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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