Posted on 07/18/2010 8:25:08 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Nasty and insane doublethink results when you want to be PC above any and all logic. She can truly, at the same time, believe that NYC is open for anyone to do anything they like but people like Palin can’t even talk about it.
This is *NOT* a conflict in their minds.
You’re right...It’s Sarah’s business and everybody’s else business in this whole country what happens at ground zero...We all took a hit that day on 9/11 as a nation and for some lib to tell us to shut up and sit down is nuts
You’re right...It’s Sarah’s business and everybody’s else business in this whole country what happens at ground zero...We all took a hit that day on 9/11 as a nation and for some lib to tell us to shut up and sit down is nuts
Check out about half way throught the video. She is a smart*ss and arrogant just like Obama.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1548903480212800657#
“Then they blew it up finally”
The same thing could happen to their new mosque if it gets built near Ground Zero. What goes around, comes around, you know what I’m saying? Karma.
Mayor Bloomberg creates job for election aide
01/07/2010
Mayor Bloomberg created a new City Hall job for a campaign staffer, hiring liberal think tank head Andrea Batista Schlesinger to drive the city’s social service policies.
She advocates for progressive policies on such issues as immigrant rights and the betterment of the middle class.
U.S. senators use her arguments in their stump speeches.
She says her passion comes from having watched her Dominican mother and Jewish father struggle financially in her childhood.
“My parents always tell me to leave this and go be a corporate lawyer and make money,” Ms. Schlesinger says. “But I feel these issues deeply.”
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And she would have to actually W O R K in corporate law!
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“Immigration reform should be shaped by progressive values that prize the dignity of all workers.”
Andrea Batista Schlesinger
“New York State Governor Eliot Spitzer had a good idea about how to issue driver’s licenses to undocumented workers. Too bad he caved.”
Andrea Batista Schlesinger
“Civics education in schools creates young people who turn into the citizens that our democracy requires.”
Andrea Batista Schlesinger
I can’t watch it. With the way wall street and NYC votes for dems, the entire city deserves a 95% income tax.
The ones complaining about the income disparity are the ones at the top, as usual, and would be the first ones out the door if their measures were applied and they weren’t still on top.
People not understanding why building a mosque on or near ground zero (or frankly, anywhere in the USA) is a bad idea is like someone asking.. ‘Why is water solid at 500 degrees Celsius’. Or ‘How can being shot in the head with a .45 ACP cause brain damage’. The line of thinking that leads to that kind of questioning is so alien to me. It’s really as if they’re another species from a dimension that doesn’t know the basic fundamental laws of our universe asking ‘why is iron solid at room temperature here?’.
It’s bizarre and nuts. I had a good talk about this with my Hindu friend, and he’s just as baffled. The most basic of human common sense should tell you not to implant a training center of the enemy in a place they scored a victory against you. I don’t know how else to explain it except that every so many years I see leftist thinking want something (cap and trade is another example) that’s so destructive with no possible benefit. Sometime my friend and I just say ‘follow the money’ and I’m sure that’s a factor here. Hopefully it’s the main one, but I don’t think so. Her using the race card so quick and pulling it is a gut reaction of PC doublethink over rational human thinking. The comments on politico are scary as all hell too for the most part, with the same ‘why is building a mosque wrong? Palin’s evil for even questioning it’ mentality. I bet most of those saying that aren’t islamics either, which is all the more painful if they aren’t just trolling.
I’ll do the pork ribs and hot dog concession in the mezzanine
Needs to happen over there, not here.
Andrea Batista Schlesinger
January 23, 2009
Gillibrand Needs to Change Her Stance on Immigration
According to her website, Gillibrand opposes a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants and co-sponsored the Secure America through Verification and Enforcement (SAVE) Act in 2007. The SAVE Act aimed at reducing the inflow of undocumented immigrants by increasing border security and internal enforcement and complete the fence along the border.
The SAVE Act failed to pass DMI’s two-part test for immigration policy that benefits the middle-class. Part one requires that immigration policy should not undermine the critical contribution that immigrants make to our economy as workers, entrepreneurs, taxpayers and consumers. Part two holds that immigration policy must strengthen the rights of immigrants in the workplace. Most Democrats and immigration advocates opposed the bill.
Gillibrand needs to change her position on immigration now that she is representing not only the 20th district of upstate New York, but the whole state, including New York City, where immigrants are the backbone of the economy. We shouldn’t let the debate over TARP and other issues distract attention from this glaring deficiency in her legislative record.
Even progressives are not following Schlesinger. They are against illegals too!
Allowing open borders for mexicans and full legalization of that entire country makes infinitely more sense to me than her complaining about Palin’s extremely mild mannered comment. I’m not the biggest Palin fan, and in fact I’d like to hear someone like Tancredo really say what he thinks (I know he can’t) about this madness.
You can make *some* tiny bit of sense out of globalism. Don’t get me wrong here please, I don’t mean it makes any real sense, but there’s some TINY notion that you can argue about. It’s not a 1+1=3 situation like this mosque madness is.
This is hilarious...
http://www.facebook.com/abschlesinger
On Schlesingers facebook page she has this as one of her favorites...
Likes and Interests
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Company Overview:
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Yeah, you can see the fashion obsession going on. Really qualified to discuss national security issue. That’s probably the main thing I miss about having Bush/Cheney.. At least I knew it wasn’t GQ reading children running the military. It reminds me of Paul Begala’s 90’s talk about F15’s flying overhead after clinton won. He said ‘those are OUR planes now’.
IMO they’re always our planes, but sometimes they’re worth something and sometimes not.
911 Mosque Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf Blames Christians:
“The US and the West must acknowledge the harm they have done to Muslims before terrorism can end”
The imam behind the 911 talks one way to the infidels and kuffars on the television and quite another when he is not building shrines to 911. Check out what Robert wrote about him in 2004.
Speaking from his New York mosque, Imam Feisal said the West had to understand the terrorists’ point of view.
In a move likely to cause controversy with church leaders, Imam Feisal said it was Christians who started mass attacks on civilians.
“The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. But it was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets.”
Imam Feisal, who argues for a Western style of Islam that promotes democracy and tolerance, said there could be little progress until the US acknowledged backing dictators and the US President gave an “America Culpa” speech to the Muslim world.
Rauf is a permanent trustee of an Islamic Cultural Center (ICC) which his father founded in New York City. Until September 28, 2001 — seventeen days after 9/11 — the ICC employed Imam Sheik Muhammad Gemeaha, who later said that “only the Jews” could have perpetrated the 9/11 attacks; that if Americans only knew about this Jewish culpability, “they would have done to Jews what Hitler did”; and that Jews “disseminate corruption in the land” and spread “heresy, homosexuality, alcoholism, and drugs.” Gemeaha’s successor at the ICC, Omar Saleem Abu-Namous, said there was no “conclusive evidence” proving that Muslims were responsible for 9/11.
In a 60 Minutes interview that aired on September 30, 2001, Rauf said that the 9/11 attacks were part of a larger Islamic “reaction against the U.S. government politically, where we [the U.S.] espouse principles of democracy and human rights, and [yet] where we ally ourselves with oppressive regimes in many of these countries.” “I wouldn’t say that the United States deserved what happened,” Rauf elaborated, “but United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.” Rauf further stated that “because we [Americans] have been accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world,” it could be said that “[i]n fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.”
Rauf, who has been entrusted with the task of conducting post-9/11 sensitivity training for the FBI, contends that Muslims have been unfairly targeted by law-enforcement authorities in recent years. “There’s no doubt we’ve been profiled since 9/11,” he said in 2005. “The Patriot Act has kind of made Muslims — there’s a sense of ‘guilty till proven innocent’ rather than the other way around.”
In the summer of 2002, Rauf began lecturing on Islam at the 750-acre campus of Chautauqua Institution, located in western New York State. Around that time, he also befriended Karen Armstrong, who later wrote the foreword for Rauf’s 2004 book, What’s Right with Islam.
Rauf’s book suggests that the “American Constitution and system of governance uphold the core principles of Islamic law” (i.e., sharia). The author concludes, therefore, that the “American political structure is sharia-compliant.” In December 2007 Rauf promoted What’s Right with Islam at a Malaysia gathering of Hizb ut Tahrir, which seeks to impose sharia on the United States and other countries worldwide.
Rauf believes that Muslim charities have been subject to undue scrutiny since 9/11. In 2005 an interviewer asked him to comment on the fact that “some Islamic charities are being investigated for terrorist ties.” Rauf replied: “We believe that a certain portion of every [Islamic] charity has been legitimate. To say that you have connections with terrorism is a very gray area. It’s like the accusation that Saddam Hussein had links to Osama bin Laden. Well, America had links to Osama bin Laden – does that mean that America is a terrorist country or has ties to terrorism? It’s that type of logic.”
In 2008 Rauf revisited the question of whether sharia could be effectively incorporated into Western legal and political systems. He hailed Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams for the “forward thinking” that had led Williams to advocate on behalf of “plural jurisdiction,” which would permit Muslim enclaves in Britain to be governed by a separate set of laws consistent with sharia. In March 2009, Rauf said that “Islamic law and American democratic principles have many things in common,” and he claimed that sharia’s endorsement of “political justice” and “economic justice … for the weak and impoverished” is a creed that “sounds suspiciously like the Declaration of Independence.”
Rauf contends that authentic Islam is highly respectful of women’s rights and freedoms. In a 2009 piece he penned for the Huffington Post, Rauf stated: “The Prophet Muhammad has been known as the first feminist. … Gender equality is an intrinsic part of Islamic belief.”
In a May 7, 2010 sermon he delivered in New York City, Rauf seemed to suggest that the perpetrators of 9/11 may not actually have been Muslims. “Some people say it was Muslims who attacked [the U.S.] on 9/11,” he said, before drifting into another topic.
Moreover, Rauf is a key member in the Malaysian-based Perdana Global Peace Organization, the single biggest donor ($366,000 as of June 2010) to the Free Gaza Movement.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2462
5 Jun 2010
The story is at Hot Air:
Here’s Rauf’s bio at the Perdana website. Reuters confirmed with the Free Gaza Movement — whose supporters include William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, natch — that its biggest donation did indeed come from Perdana. Any reason to fault Rauf for belonging to a “global peace organization” willing to give money to another group that promises only“civil resistance and non-violent direct action”? Well, it depends. Did he know that the flotilla was being co-organized by a Turkish charity with terrorist ties? Did he know that goon provocateurs would be aboard the flotilla, some of them from the Muslim Brotherhood? Does he realize that the stated mission of the Free Gaza Movement, i.e. to “establish a permanent sea lane between Gaza and the rest of the world,” will assuredly result in weapons shipments to Hamas? If he didn’t know those things before — and maybe he didn’t — does finding out now change his opinion of the FGM? Inquiring reporters should want to know.
http://nomosquesatgroundzero.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/raufs-wtc-cover.jpg
“If we do this right, we want to franchise this concept, and build other Cordoba Houses like this in other American cities, and cities around the globe.”
Imam Feisal is actively developing a “dictionary” of religious terms in order to change the nature of current discourse about Islam. For instance, when a Muslim says: “This is un-Islamic,” what he or she means is that “This is illegal,” according to Abdul Rauf. Because Islam is a religion of law, with a strong sense of justice, he says, what Muslims mean by “This is un-Islamic” is “This is unconstitutional.”
The Pajamas Media report quotes the founder of the 9/11 Ground Zero mosque, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf as making several troubling statements.
On March 24, 2010, Imam Abdul Rauf was quoted in an article in Arabic for the website Rights4All entitled The Most Prominent Imam in New York: ‘I Do Not Believe in Religious Dialogue. In the article, he clearly indicates that he does not believe in religious dialogue. Yet in all his interviews with the New York press, he claims this mosque is about promoting peace through religious dialogue. Imam Abdul Rauf, which is it, what you tell the Arabs or what you tell the Americans?
On May 26, Imam Abdul Rauf said:
Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia that are required to govern. It is known that there are sets of standards that are accepted by [Muslim] scholars to organize the relationships between government and the governed.
When questioned about this, Abdul Rauf continued: “Current governments are unjust and do not follow Islamic laws.” He added:
New laws were permitted after the death of Muhammad, so long of course that these laws do not contradict the Quran or the Deeds of Muhammad … so they create institutions that assure no conflicts with Sharia.
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Then we have this exchange on September 30, 2001 (mere weeks after the 9/11 attacks) when Feisal Abdul Rauf was interviewed on 60 Minutes by host Ed Bradley. Their verbatim dialogue from this CBS News transcript concluded:
BRADLEY: Are — are — are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved what happened?
Imam ABDUL RAUF: I wouldn’t say that the United States deserved what happened, but the United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.
BRADLEY: OK. You say that we’re an accessory?
Imam ABDUL RAUF: Yes.
BRADLEY: How?
Imam ABDUL RAUF: Because we have been an accessory to a lot of — of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it — in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.
The Washington Times reports:
The building was purchased in July 2009 for $4.85 million in cash by Soho Properties, a real-estate investment firm tied to developer Sharif El-Gamal. One of the investors was the Cordoba Initiative, an organization chaired by Ms. Khan’s husband, Faisal Abdul Rauf. The initiative listed less than $20,000 in assets in 2008 and has received less than $100,000 in contributions since it was founded in 2004. The ASMA has assets of less than $1 million. The principals will not explain how their cash-poor organizations can hope to undertake such a major project, but Ms. [Daisy] Khan [executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement] claims that, “Cordoba House will be a new entity whose funding sources will be independent from the funding sources of ASMA and Cordoba Initiative.” Odds are the money will come from overseas.
Yikes - wish I hadn’t. Militant useful intellectual rambling on... not easy to see/hear.
We should let the Muslims know that if they plan to put a mosque there, they should also know that there will be a pig slaughterhouse to the left of them, a pork sausage shop to the right of them, and a dog training facility behind them.
Then, for good measure, someone should make sure the ground under the mosque is infused with pig parts and the walls of the other buildings around the mosque have fake and real pork hanging on them.
bloomy is “financial”. bloomy has sharia financial interests. bloomy is a greedy SOB.
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