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Parents' fury as teenage daughter dies just days after doctors sent her home and 'told her to
Daily Mail ^ | 21st July 2010

Posted on 07/21/2010 10:52:36 AM PDT by george76

A schoolgirl suffered multiple organ failure and four heart attacks just days after doctors sent her home with paracetamol and told her to take 'plenty of rest', an inquest heard.

Amy Carter, 15, begged doctors not to discharge her, telling them 'I'm dying' but medics assured her she would be fine.

She developed septicaemia after being released by doctors who had diagnosed her with glandular fever. Two days later on Christmas Eve, Amy - who had not been able to eat for 19 days and weighed just six stone - was taken to hospital and died hours later.

Amy was discharged by the Worcestershire Royal Hospital before results of blood tests and a throat swab were known - the swab later revealed bacteria that entered her bloodstream and triggered septicaemia.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: baterialinfection; communismkills; glandularfever; healthcare; medicine; mononucleosis; nhs; obamacare; pneumonia; septicemia; socialized; socializedmedicine
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Parents' fury as teenage daughter dies just days after doctors sent her home and 'told her to take paracetamol'

1 posted on 07/21/2010 10:52:38 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Coming soon to your neighborhood...


2 posted on 07/21/2010 10:54:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
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To: george76

Were this my child the life expectancy of the doctors who did this would be measured in hours.


3 posted on 07/21/2010 10:55:13 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: george76

Hey, another win for socialized medicine. Its a wonder they wasted all that treatment on her, they could have just as easily killed right off and saved a fortune. Sick people suck (I believe Mr. Skittles said that). Blue pill or red pill?


4 posted on 07/21/2010 10:55:13 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Lurker

Lead poisoning, don’cha know.


5 posted on 07/21/2010 10:56:20 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks, but it's already here. We spent a year going to various specialists and doctors for my daughter and no one could really diagnose why she was too dizzy to stand up straight, and couldn't think or formulate sentences when she was dizzy. One neurologist, after watching her stagger down the hall, said: "I really wish you'd come when you're having one of the dizzy spells so I can see what's wrong."

And that's BEFORE Obamacare. Went to another neurologist who said he couldn't find anything so it was probably "conversion disorder" that would be helped by physical therapy. That at least put us on the right tract. Long story short, several sessions with physical therapists and chiropractor, and she's able to function again.

6 posted on 07/21/2010 10:58:01 AM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: knittnmom

Sorry, track, not tract.


7 posted on 07/21/2010 10:58:29 AM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: george76

That’s outrageous that they sent her home. I was septic after my appendix ruptured many years ago and was sent home, too, because I was misdiagnosed. I then was rushed back to the hopsital two days later and finally got a correct diagnosis. I credit God, my surgeon and the good healthcare in this country for allowing me to survive it. Prayers to the kid’s family.


8 posted on 07/21/2010 11:01:12 AM PDT by Cheesel (So this how democracy dies...with thunderous applause, March 21, 2010)
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To: knittnmom

You’re telling a very different story than this article, though. You had the ability to go to various specialists - who were having trouble diagnosing her, and you finally struck on a right answer. The child in the article had no choice but to go home and die - and THAT’s medicine under Obamacare.


9 posted on 07/21/2010 11:02:36 AM PDT by cammie
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To: george76

Oh yeah, The tomato brains here want to pattern our health care after these tomato brains. Sounds about right.

Well, she did save someone money by just taking a pill and dying.

That’s what it’s all about.

Got to keep that money saved to further the cause.


10 posted on 07/21/2010 11:04:25 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: george76

What is the problem here? This girl’s end-of-life care was managed very efficiently, and cost the NIH only a few hundred dollars. There is no way the US health-care system could have dealt with this case for even ten times that price.


11 posted on 07/21/2010 11:06:41 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (There are 10 kinds of people: Those who get binary math, and those who don't.)
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To: george76

She was clogging up a bed and costing them money. They wanted her out of the hospital.

Medical decisions take the backseat to budget decisions.

Welcome to Obamacare.


12 posted on 07/21/2010 11:07:58 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: george76
FWIW, glandular fever is the British name for mononucleosis.
13 posted on 07/21/2010 11:16:00 AM PDT by Zakeet (The Big Wee Wee -- rapidly moving America from WTF to SNAFU to FUBAR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
this is no lie....I was talking to a doctor in private practice and he said that there will probably be no docs in private practice in a few more years...the hospitals will hire "hospitalists" and set the agenda....when to admit, when to administer antibiotics, when to discharge etc...

I feel sorry for the doctors.....imagine studying all those years and devoting your life to helping people and then being told who, what,when,how, and how much by the desk sitters....

14 posted on 07/21/2010 11:20:17 AM PDT by cherry
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To: george76

I had to look up some of the terminology. “Glandular fever” is what Brits call “mononucleosis.” The article said she had that, plus pneumonia; yet they sent her home.

Septicemia is when a baterial infection in one locale in the body gets into the bloodstream and starts to overwhelm the entire body, resulting in a very rapid decline and death. Some of the symptoms are a failure to produce urine and red blotches on the skin.


15 posted on 07/21/2010 11:24:40 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (" 'Bush did it' is not a foreign policy." -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: cammie

Good point. Thanks.


16 posted on 07/21/2010 11:27:19 AM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: george76

Shrug. What are ya gonna do? Mistakes will happen.


17 posted on 07/21/2010 11:28:34 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: cherry

Before Obamacare was passed, we were working with an internal medicine specialist, who said she would probably have to leave the country to practice medicine the way she believed it should be practiced. Only problem was, she wasn’t sure where she could go that didn’t have socialized medicine.


18 posted on 07/21/2010 11:29:08 AM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: Albion Wilde; Zakeet; neverdem

Thanks


19 posted on 07/21/2010 11:30:36 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Albion Wilde

This is the kind of thing I see a lot in medicine here - the docs saw a young teen, feeling lousy, fatigued, and heard hoofbeats, and assumed it was mono. A reasonable suggestion, but they didn’t consider the differential diagnosis, the list of all the things it COULD be.

So, there is a saying in medicine that “when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.” Which goes to show why you shouldn’t practice medicine based on sayings or rules-of-thumb, aka heuristics. Because you’ll be wrong a certain percentage of the time.


20 posted on 07/21/2010 11:35:53 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: ichabod1

That’s why I always tell people that I want my doctors to be like Dr. House. :-) I don’t care how nasty they are to me as long as they are curious and skeptical of the most likely scenario.

Oh, and atheist helps too - i don’t want my Doctor thinking, “well, she’s going to a better place.” I want my doctor thinking that this IS the best place. :-)


21 posted on 07/21/2010 11:45:55 AM PDT by cammie
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To: ichabod1

The National Health Service (NHS) is free at the point of use for the patient though there are charges associated with eye tests, dental care, prescriptions, and many aspects of personal care.

The NHS provides the majority of healthcare in England, including primary care, in-patient care, long-term healthcare, ophthalmology and dentistry. The National Health Service Act 1946 came into effect on 5 July 1948. Private health care has continued parallel to the NHS, paid for largely by private insurance, but it is used by less than 8% of the population[citation needed], and generally as a top-up to NHS services. Recently there have been some examples where unused private sector capacity has been used to increase NHS capacity and in some cases the NHS has commissioned the private sector to establish and run new facilities on a sub contracted basis. Some new capital programs have been financed through the private finance initiative. The involvement of the private sector remains relatively small yet, according to one survey by the BMA, a large proportion of the public oppose such involvement.[2]

More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_England


22 posted on 07/21/2010 11:45:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: george76

Corrected title :

Parents’ fury as teenage daughter dies just days after doctors sent her home and ‘told her to go home and die’


23 posted on 07/21/2010 11:48:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ichabod1

I agree; most doctors do not take a full history and review of symptoms, but merely go after the topmost layer. The several times I have had a life-threatening organic condition in my lifetime, including a bleeding internal rupture, every time I was sent home the first or second or third time with no diagnosis, or was offered antacids or anti-depressants.

The latest medical odyssey in our extended family was a fairly common yet physically devastating condition that my family member suggested to the doctors that she had — because it runs in her side of the family — but it took six years to get an “official” diagnosis, and two years to get the correct dose of medication — just as the economy was going south and her need for enough health and energy to save her work situation was critical. Her professional and personal losses were substantial, and she couldn’t even make a claim on her disability policy because by the time the four doctors involved realized just how bad it looked, they were unwilling to admit it for the record, and she was by then too strapped to undergo the stress of suing them.

They just don’t have time to listen any more. How many of us are similarly out of patience?


24 posted on 07/21/2010 11:55:13 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (" 'Bush did it' is not a foreign policy." -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: cherry

You’re making an important point. This case is an example of a situation where the physician would have to go outside the protocol and keep the patient on either a hunch, or personal knowledge of what “normal” is for that patient and an awareness that she doesn’t look normal. Hunches generally don’t make hospitalists popular with their masters, and a system that destroys the concept of a personal doctor/patient relationship pretty much eliminates the second possibility.

Whether she’d have survived even with immediate antibiotic treatment is an open question, but the case does illustrate the potential systemic flaws when the “doctor as patient advocate” aspect of medicine is lost.


25 posted on 07/21/2010 12:04:27 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: george76

Brought here, courtesy of Dr. “Just-take-a-pain-pill” Mengele...oops...Obama.


26 posted on 07/21/2010 12:05:42 PM PDT by kromike
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To: Lurker
Were this my child the life expectancy of the doctors who did this would be measured in hours.

That is coming too, as are "at gun point" demands to treat sick family members like the movie John Q.

Hospitals will then be equipped with TSA-like ObamaCare security screeners, and this will likely be used as another excuse to attack the 2nd Amendment.

27 posted on 07/21/2010 12:05:49 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: cherry
A friend of mine is an orthopeadist. He is so frustrated with “hospitalists”....they don't want to work very hard, they do not understand or make an effort to understand the surgical patient.....my friend understands the importance of keeping the blood sugars low post op and the hosptialists will ignore his orders and screw up the patients blood sugars doing things “their way”.....it is a real mess
28 posted on 07/21/2010 12:23:30 PM PDT by Kimmers (Illegal immigration is destroying America, look what it did to the White House)
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To: ichabod1

The flip side is to do 1000 tests for the common cold...


29 posted on 07/21/2010 12:26:25 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: knittnmom

I am terribly sorry that your daughter suffered so much, but, honestly, ( as a health professional myself) sometimes we just aren’t able to make a diagnosis.

I am pleased that you were able to find the help that she needed to get well. Also...Please remember that sometimes people get better, on their own, and the treatment prescribed had nothing to do with the recovery.


30 posted on 07/21/2010 12:27:54 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: george76

“I’m in love with the British health care system.”


31 posted on 07/21/2010 12:36:13 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: wintertime

Yes, I realize that. We were mainly frustrated with the neurologist who, in the face of, to us, obvious symptoms, could not see that ANYTHING was even wrong.

Next time, though, we’re starting with the chiropractor. :-)


32 posted on 07/21/2010 12:38:26 PM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: Mr Rogers

>> The flip side is to do 1000 tests for the common cold...

That’s not the flip side. But 1000 tests are still better than death.


33 posted on 07/21/2010 12:41:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: george76

FYI - paracetamol = acetaminophen = Tylenol


34 posted on 07/21/2010 12:47:38 PM PDT by jimt
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To: george76

bttt


35 posted on 07/21/2010 1:05:19 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: jimt

Thanks


36 posted on 07/21/2010 1:18:16 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Gene Eric

1000 tests make money for the hospitals. Unless you are paying for your own bills, don’t expect perfect health care.


37 posted on 07/21/2010 1:22:21 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Zakeet

Thank-you. Can you tell us how much six stones is?


38 posted on 07/21/2010 1:24:58 PM PDT by eccentric
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To: eccentric

14 x 6 lbs = 84lbs

Stone = 14 lbs


39 posted on 07/21/2010 1:28:01 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: Mr Rogers

I get your point, although it was a bit extreme.

Litigation has obviously put medicine on defense requiring the battery of tests you described.


40 posted on 07/21/2010 1:31:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: cammie

One of the best(if not the best)cardiologist I have had, had the bedside manner of a certified a**hole but he kept me alive and allowed me to live a comfortable, normal life. Drs I had before him weren’t that good. The one I have now(the a**hole quit medicine for health reasons)I keep in line by telling him what the other guy said(they were colleagues) and it works.:) Personality isn’t always conducive to being a good doctor.


41 posted on 07/21/2010 1:37:38 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Gene Eric

I’m probably oversensitive. My wife works as an RN...every night she sees patients getting admitted for 3-5 days and a large battery of tests, all paid for by the Arizona taxpayer.

Stomach ache? Paid for by Arizona? Expect 5 days in the hospital, exploratory surgery, multiple tests - all to ensure the patient gets proper care, of course.

Patients with private insurance don’t get approved for that sort of thing.


43 posted on 07/21/2010 1:39:06 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: All

the girl died.

the socialized medical system worked EXACTLY as designed.


44 posted on 07/21/2010 2:07:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: george76
I read another article at the Daily Mail today about new success with knee replacements, it sounds very good, but... one of the comments was a fellow who had an operation on his knee cartilage that left him in continuing "excruciating" pain. Under Britain's National Health Service "NHS", he says it will be seven years before he can be considered for a knee replacement.

This is what Obama and his medical rationing czar are bringing to America.

45 posted on 07/21/2010 4:22:48 PM PDT by RJL (Sarah Palin/Paul Ryan in 2012)
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To: MrB

Wow, how Christian of you.


46 posted on 07/21/2010 4:23:01 PM PDT by cammie
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To: Zakeet

“FWIW, glandular fever is the British name for mononucleosis.”

Thanks, I was wondering about that


47 posted on 07/21/2010 4:49:21 PM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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To: george76

well - it was free, and they did give her pills.


48 posted on 07/21/2010 4:52:29 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: knittnmom
I concur. Always, always, always get a second opinion if your gut says something isn't right.

More than once my doctor said you have "X" take this pill and see me in a week if you don't get better.

Damn near died several years ago after getting some digestitional problem where I was passing blood by the buckets and could not even hold down glass of water. My doctor (who no longer is my doctor) told me I had a large intestine ulcer and to modify my diet and it would clear up.

After a week, I checked myself into a hospital because I was so weak I could barely get out of bed to crawl to the bathroom anymore

Turned out I had some nasty bacterial infection which was tearing up my guts. Lost almost 25 pounds in two weeks.

49 posted on 07/21/2010 5:09:16 PM PDT by Popman (Why does the New Black Panther Party want to kill saltines ?)
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To: cammie
Oh, and atheist helps too - i don’t want my Doctor thinking, “well, she’s going to a better place.” I want my doctor thinking that this IS the best place. :-)

Atheist doctors have only the numbers to believe in. If there's only a 1% chance of survival they are inclined to pull the plug.

50 posted on 07/21/2010 5:39:12 PM PDT by Reeses
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