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ACLU Backs Prop. 19, The Pot Initiative
LA WEekly ^ | Jul. 22 2010 | J. Patrick Coolican

Posted on 07/23/2010 9:48:58 AM PDT by Mojave

California's three ACLU affiliates announced today they are backing Prop 19, the statewide initiative to legalize pot for those 21 and older. The measure will be on the ballot in November.

"Enforcement of marijuana prohibition consumes a great deal of California's law enforcement and court system resources, and has a disproportionate impact on communities of color," the ACLU said in a press release.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.laweekly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: marijuana; pot; prop19; proposition19
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To: Mojave

Well, what a shock I tell you.

If it’s degenerate, the ACLU is for it. Anything that destroys human beings.


21 posted on 07/23/2010 10:16:09 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: KDD

Also wonder if they will ban illegal grow operations where the drugs are grown for smuggling to other states?


22 posted on 07/23/2010 10:16:45 AM PDT by dila813
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To: KDD

“Or at least criminalize the use of the drugs nicotine caffeine and alcohol. “

Oh yes, they are such moral equivalents.

If we are going to ban public nudity, we must therefore ban shorts.


23 posted on 07/23/2010 10:17:26 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: KDD

If we were evil racists like the Democrats claim, we would support this because these lazy pot smokers in the inner city never vote.

Too busy getting high.


24 posted on 07/23/2010 10:19:24 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Mojave
Intrastate sales...not interstate.

Disturbing to see so called conservatives cheering utilizing the court's unconstitutional substantial effects doctrine and apply it to any type of prohibition law.

25 posted on 07/23/2010 10:19:34 AM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: Mojave

LOL, the scumbag ACLU...
Let me know when those mice take on a 2nd Amendment issue.


26 posted on 07/23/2010 10:22:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Persevero

What make marijuana “Immoral”?

What exempts alcohol from the morality clause of the constitution?


27 posted on 07/23/2010 10:22:47 AM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: dila813

In California, you have to show your ID when purchasing cold medicine or cough syrup. My husband also had to show his ID when he purchased some marshmallow forks at the local pharmacy!! California is filled with bureaucratic bullies!


28 posted on 07/23/2010 10:25:16 AM PDT by TMD (Sometimes people say the wrong things, just remember, they really meant to say the right thing.)
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To: KDD
Intrastate sales...not interstate.

Fungible. Oh, and a false distinction to boot.

"For these reasons, we hold that medical necessity is not a defense to manufacturing and distributing marijuana." --Justice Clarence Thomas

29 posted on 07/23/2010 10:26:43 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Good point.

But the question should be “Why are there federal drug laws”?

Show me where the constitution gives them that power?


30 posted on 07/23/2010 10:27:22 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Niuhuru

Yes it will send all the drug tourists to California. They’ll get in cars, drive to California, spend a lot of money and drive home to their houses, families and jobs.


31 posted on 07/23/2010 10:28:00 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: dila813

“And I am sure none of this is going to make it over state lines.”

So then pot is not currently available in your state anyway?


32 posted on 07/23/2010 10:28:42 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Persevero
If we are going to ban public nudity, we must therefore ban shorts.

Zing!

33 posted on 07/23/2010 10:28:56 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: KDD

Amen!


34 posted on 07/23/2010 10:32:57 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Mojave
No States Rights for you.

All hail the moral Fed Gov.

Our benevolent nanny.

You would trade freedom for pottage.

There are moralists and there are conservatives.

There are definite distinctions between the two...something that is illustrated here quite often.

35 posted on 07/23/2010 10:33:22 AM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD

What makes marijuana “immoral?”

The same thing that makes drunkenness immoral.

I had this debate on another thread. Alcohol use is always made equivalent to drunkenness. But you can have one without the other, any usually, people who drink do not get drunk.

A person can have a glass or two or even three, depending on their body type and the length of time ingesting and the alcohol level in the drink; without being impaired.

A person can not smoke a joint without being impaired.

Deliberately impairing your rationality and judgement is immoral.

I will not defend drunkenness any more than I will defend getting stoned.

But a limited amount of alcohol does not make you drunk.

Lest you think I am defending my favorite drug at the expense of yours, I assure you, I do not drink at all. I don’t like the taste of any alcohol being the reason.

Some like to equate marijuana with caffeine; I say again, a person can drink quite a few cups of coffee without getting high; but you are high if you smoke one joint.


36 posted on 07/23/2010 10:34:44 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Mojave
Now who would have ever thought that liberals would back liberals and a liberal position.
37 posted on 07/23/2010 10:35:03 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: truthfreedom
They’ll get in cars, drive to California, spend a lot of money and drive home to their houses, families and jobs.


38 posted on 07/23/2010 10:35:55 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Persevero

“Oh yes, they are such moral equivalents”

Actually, I would say alcohol is roughly equivalent.

Wouldn’t you?


39 posted on 07/23/2010 10:36:27 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Pessimist

Yes, produced locally or smuggled from Mexico or Canada. Currently smuggling from California isn’t the source.


40 posted on 07/23/2010 10:36:50 AM PDT by dila813
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