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'Blue Screen of Death' on Oil Rig's Computer ( Deepwater Horizon Oilspill )
HardOCP ^ | Saturday July 24, 2010 | Al

Posted on 07/24/2010 10:30:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: ConservativeMind

Slight clarification - there are versions of Windows with real-time extensions, such as iNTime and Venturecom RTX, that are used by some industrial applications. No idea what BP was using, but I’m sure it will come out. And despite what Microsoft says, I wouldn’t trust CE or Mobile or embedded XP for anything boom-able or critical. Been there, done that.


61 posted on 07/24/2010 11:23:51 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: tacticalogic

If it’s a high-vibration environment, that can wreck havoc on hard drives and connectors.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

A marine environment is rough on electronics, I’d bet.


62 posted on 07/24/2010 11:23:56 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: P8riot
Some people just ain't very bright. And never rule out the lazy factor.
63 posted on 07/24/2010 11:25:21 AM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: UCANSEE2

I recall reading the specs on that rig. Seven 10,000 HP diesel generators.


64 posted on 07/24/2010 11:25:24 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Found this from link at TOD:

Software Products for Industrial Automation

65 posted on 07/24/2010 11:25:59 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: worst-case scenario
Disabled gas sensor, broken BOP, failing computer systems

Audible alarms disabled.

Unusually high pressure readings.

Unexpected spikes and drops in pressure.

Seismic indications of unstable seafloor. Leaks of oil and gas from seafloor (NOTICED WAY BEFORE THE RIG CAUGHT ON FIRE).

Waivers to skip the waiting period for the cement plugs to cure.

Waivers to jump to replacing heavy mud with seawater ahead of schedule.

The 'crew' was ready to go home. (truth was they wanted off the rig before it 'blew'.)

The "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" signs were already paid for.

There was a 'party' going on celebrating their success.

The EXPERIENCED CREW wanted to follow safety procedures, the INEXPERIENCED STUFFED SHIRTS were only concerned with the 'official turnover' of the RIG going ahead as planned, damn the torpedoes.

Missing Hangers.

Cheap CHINESE steel pipe casing (with Melamine for more flavor). (another 'waiver' from MMS for BP).

Dead batteries in 'REMOTE BOP ACTIVATORS'.

And that's just off the top of my head.

66 posted on 07/24/2010 11:26:18 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2

Your list is BRUTAL. Thank you for compiling it I only wish you didn’t have to.

Definitely trial for murder time. I don’t care HOW high this goes.

Take Salazar and Hayward and Suttles and put them on the stand. Americans need to know what’s happening to their people and their land.


67 posted on 07/24/2010 11:32:24 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
More from #65:

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  • Documentation stored on CPU
  • Comprehensive HELP files
  • Plug and play USB programming
  • Ethernet programming
  • Nimble math instructions
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  • Run-time edits
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68 posted on 07/24/2010 11:33:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: worst-case scenario

..all the way to the tippy top(..or the dirty ugly bottom


69 posted on 07/24/2010 11:33:41 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Lazamataz

They will have a 20 BILLION dollar account set up out of Microsofts coffers just like thay did with BP.

NO rule of law for the deep pockets.


70 posted on 07/24/2010 11:34:12 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: central_va

My suspicion from day one, McAfee pushed a DAT file that day that caused thousands if not millions of PC’s to boot-loop the morning the rig caught fire: http://www.bing.com/search?q=mcafee+pc+reboot&form=QBLH&qs=n&sk= McAfee admitted to not testing the DAT on XP SP3. The DAT file detected a Windows system file as a virus and deleted it which caused PC’s to endlessly reboot. It was not a Windows issue.


71 posted on 07/24/2010 11:34:52 AM PDT by theymakemesick (Full of hatred for those that disagree, liberal democrats are the most intolerant bigots on Earth)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
"It took a bunch of people not doing the job for this to happen."

It took the Harvard MBAs that the Seven Sisters hire, rather then some poor tool pusher who grew up in the Oil Patch, and went to school at night. This is what you get when you treat a business and a mechanical process as a practical application of economic theory.

72 posted on 07/24/2010 11:37:03 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
"It took a bunch of people not doing the job for this to happen."

It took the Harvard MBAs that the Seven Sisters hire, rather then some poor tool pusher who grew up in the Oil Patch, and went to school at night. This is what you get when you treat a business and a mechanical process as a practical application of economic theory.

73 posted on 07/24/2010 11:37:03 AM PDT by jonascord (We've got the Constitution to protect us. Why should we worry?)
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To: ConservativeMind

It seems they’ve left out HP’s RTE and RTE-A real-time OS’s. I can think of several sites still running HP-1000’s. Bullet-proof, maybe but I can personally attest to it being oil-proof.


74 posted on 07/24/2010 11:37:55 AM PDT by printhead
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You will hear old hands carping about the d@mn computers being screwed up again, and it does happen, but usually it is a bad sensor in the system not tracking depth or the sample lagging program getting dumped and a couple of cuttings samples not getting caught as a result. These, while aggravating can be worked around by correcting depth and having someone paying attention to what is going on.

Looking at the wrong data is pretty bad, and the BSOD should never be tolerated in a rig data package.

Still, 'older' hands would likely rely on gauges and pit levels by eyeball rather than believe a computer which tells them something different than their observations, just because they don't trust the computers anyway.

This might have led to the disagreements which were alleged to have occurred between crews and BP management, and I can see where someone might be inclined to blow off readings which indicated adverse conditions in the wellbore as a computer error or miscalibration.

The critical error would be in not verifying that either the computer readouts were in error or that the readings were indeed correct before proceeding, especially when considering the potential for disaster. While the driller's console is an important one, there should be multiple redundencies onsite (or on the rig), not just that one display.

I wonder whose program they were running?

75 posted on 07/24/2010 11:38:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just Press CTRL-ALT-DELETE


76 posted on 07/24/2010 11:43:59 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ConservativeMind
You don’t want Windows to run your car’s electronics.

Oh.... but some of them do. Chryslers do. Their car electronics runs Windows. I used to pop in a CD to install factory updates.

77 posted on 07/24/2010 11:44:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: TheBattman
While I am no MS fan, is Windows the only OS that throws a blue screen when things go wrong?

In the Unix world, it's called a kernel panic, after the name of the privileged function that is called to take the system down:

PANIC(9)		 BSD Kernel Developer's Manual		      PANIC(9)

NAME
     panic -- bring down system on fatal error


SYNOPSIS
     #include <sys/types.h>
     #include <sys/systm.h>

     void
     panic(const char *fmt, ...);

DESCRIPTION
     The panic() function terminates the running system.  The message fmt is a
     printf(3) style format string.  The message is printed to the console and
     the location panicstr is set to the address of the message text for
     retrieval from the OS core dump.

     If the kernel debugger is installed control is passed to it, otherwise an
     attempt to save a core dump of the OS to a configured dump device is
     made.

     If panic() is called twice (from the disk sync routines, for example) the
     system is rebooted without syncing the disks.


RETURN VALUES
     The panic() function does not return.

BSD				August 11, 1995 			   BSD

As far as color, black and white tends to be favored over blue and white.


Linux


Mac OS X

78 posted on 07/24/2010 11:45:10 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BSOD can mean either a Windows software failure, a hardware failure, or a stealth hardware failure that corrupted the software, causing it to fail.

Sounds like Transocean was using a Windows product, and most likely were using a garden variety commercial Dell PC or the like, a most deadly combination in terms of reliability, robustness, and uptime. I would really hate to see something like that used on, say, a nuclear reactor controller.

Basically, Transocean was using Radio-Shack-Quality components for this particular monitoring function, rather than an industrial computer with a reliable OS like one of the UNIX-derivative OSes.


79 posted on 07/24/2010 11:47:27 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the Right Stuff!)
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To: P8riot
Windows: n 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

Based on an OS stolen from APPLE, who had stolen it from XEROX.

80 posted on 07/24/2010 11:47:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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