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Woman Removed From Plane to Make Room for Overweight Teen
NewsCore ^ | 7/26/10 | Staff

Posted on 07/26/2010 2:35:27 PM PDT by MissTed

Edited on 07/26/2010 3:15:37 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Earlier this year, Southwest Airlines, came under fire for removing an overweight passenger from a flight. Now, five months later, the airline has done it again but this time they kicked off a thin passenger to make room for an obese teenager, MyFoxdfw.com reported.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: fat; fattie; southwest; swa; tonnage; toofat
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Southwest should let the lady fly free for a year. Ridiculous!
1 posted on 07/26/2010 2:35:29 PM PDT by MissTed
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To: MissTed

Put the fatties in the cargo bay.


2 posted on 07/26/2010 2:36:36 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Lucky she didn’t call the teenager “fat.” She probably would have been prosecuted for “hate speech” and placed on a do-not-fly list for the rest of her life.

Ah, life in Obamerica.


3 posted on 07/26/2010 2:38:43 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: MissTed

4 posted on 07/26/2010 2:38:50 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: pissant


There are special planes designed to carry heavy loads.
5 posted on 07/26/2010 2:38:56 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: MissTed

Um, she was flying standby. If the fat teen had previously reserved his two seat and paid for them in advance, she may have grounds to complain about how she was asked to get off, but not for the fact that she was.


6 posted on 07/26/2010 2:39:25 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: pissant

Wow, this is ridiculous. I guess it’s good to be fat, and getting a seat for free.

Thin people should be able to request a no fatties section, and they should tag overweight passengers before they get on the plane.


7 posted on 07/26/2010 2:40:20 PM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: MissTed

I’d get me an agent if’n I was her! She should be on Oprah, Nancy Grace, Larry King..

did I read that right, the double wide was a 14 y-o?


8 posted on 07/26/2010 2:40:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: MissTed

From the other day...
 
Woman told she's too big to fly
 
Lots more....  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=swa+too+fat&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=FREEREPUBLIC.COM&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images


9 posted on 07/26/2010 2:40:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: MissTed
SWA should have paid the "obese teenager" to fly on this:


10 posted on 07/26/2010 2:42:02 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Vigilanteman

does it say that in the article?

If he paid for two seats, he gets two seats. No different than a person who pays extra for a musical instrument.


11 posted on 07/26/2010 2:42:39 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vigilanteman

No, no.

The fat kid only paid for ONE seat.


12 posted on 07/26/2010 2:43:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: MissTed

Why are there no names or photos in this story? Common, a teenager too fat to sit in one seat and nobody thought to take a picture. Did they think it would be too embarrassing? I’d say it’s a about 500,000 calories too late for that sentiment.


13 posted on 07/26/2010 2:45:12 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

are we sure?

in any case she was on standby.


14 posted on 07/26/2010 2:45:33 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vigilanteman

“It didn’t seem right that I should have to leave to accommodate someone who had only paid for one seat,”


15 posted on 07/26/2010 2:46:40 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Pravious

here’s a video of the woman and the kid. You’ll she was rightly kicked off. Poor kid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MD6Cx0qzRA


16 posted on 07/26/2010 2:47:07 PM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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To: longtermmemmory
She was flying standby from Las Vegas to Sacramento and had paid the full fare for the last available seat on the plane.

The overweight teen should have been kicked off, imho.

17 posted on 07/26/2010 2:47:47 PM PDT by MissTed (Never buy products from ACME.)
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To: MissTed

She was flying standby

I stopped reading right there.


18 posted on 07/26/2010 2:48:24 PM PDT by omega4179 (PREVIEW IS MY FRIEND)
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To: Vigilanteman

The missing information is whether the teen HAD purchased two seats prior to the flight. I would guess that the answer was no, since the crew seemed to think they had room for the standby customer up until they realized that the teen required an additional seat : / Tis just a guess, since none of those details are in the article, but it seems reasonable enough.


19 posted on 07/26/2010 2:49:12 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: MissTed

No the plumper was a full fare passenger. The normal woman was a standby.


20 posted on 07/26/2010 2:49:32 PM PDT by omega4179 (PREVIEW IS MY FRIEND)
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To: pissant

Or better yet FedEx em!


21 posted on 07/26/2010 2:50:30 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: pissant

Rather than being tolerant you go for the usual bash. Shame on you. What if this had been a star athlete, say NFL? The kid might have a medical condition rather than just liking to eat. Funny, how people don’t consider that. If the poor guy has kidney problems he might have been light a year or two ago, but gained since. I feel bad for the lady, but she was flying “standby”. She did not have a seat on that flight. People are treating the kid as if his seat wasn’t paid for. Part of the problem with airlines is that the designed the cabins to carry more people with less comfort (seat size, let room, head room). Where’s the outrage over that?


22 posted on 07/26/2010 2:50:52 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The article didn’t say that, did it? I do wonder why jumbo wasn’t told to take the next flight since she was late, tho.


23 posted on 07/26/2010 2:51:19 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sure I've heard of grits. I just never actually *seen* a grit before.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I don't know if the fat kid paid for one seat or two.
 
She says one seat.
 
"It didn't seem right that I should have to leave to accommodate someone who had only paid for one seat," the woman, who wished to remain anonymous, told the Sacramento Bee.


Even if he did pay for two, he (she/it??) should probably have been denied the flight.

 
If you're on standby and a passnger is a no show, then great - you get to fly. If fattie later waddles in after boarding - after the stand-byes have been seated - then Tough Poopski.

Makes no difference if fat or not. It's not right to show up late and expect to bounce off a paid passenger.

24 posted on 07/26/2010 2:51:37 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: Signalman

You’re rude.


25 posted on 07/26/2010 2:51:46 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: mrmeyer

Would you suggest the same thing if the passenger were a NFL player? Shame on you.


26 posted on 07/26/2010 2:53:38 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: MissTed
Southwest should let the lady fly free for a year. Ridiculous!

The lady was a standby passenger - she had no reason to expect to be able to fly.
27 posted on 07/26/2010 2:54:07 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Soothesayer9

Not funny. You are mean and rude.


28 posted on 07/26/2010 2:54:32 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: omega4179

Why?

If you fly standby and space is available, should you not be allowed to board?

Of course. So she was boarded. She got on the plane.

THEN.... a passenger - fat/thin doesn’t matter - shows up late - after everyone is seated.

You think it’s OK for that late slob to bump off a paid passenger?

I didn’t think so.


29 posted on 07/26/2010 2:55:37 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Tolerance is libspeak. If you too fat, buy two seats.....and show up on time before they seat the standbys


30 posted on 07/26/2010 2:56:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Pravious

Overweight people have feelings too. Guess it doesn’t matter though, because this is a “fat” person. And it definitely doesn’t matter that it’s a “fat” kid. All fat people are fare game for the rude folks like those on this thread. Thought FReepers were better folks. Guess I was wrong.


31 posted on 07/26/2010 2:57:51 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Would you suggest the same thing if the passenger were a NFL player? Shame on you.

What's funny is that the majority of Americans are classified as obese. Most of the posters calling this 14-yr old kid names likely have some weight issues themselves.
32 posted on 07/26/2010 2:57:51 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

have any of the knee jerk reactions even been in an airplane lately?

The seats spaces are so small it would be illegal to hold animals in such a space.


33 posted on 07/26/2010 2:59:39 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Soothesayer9

LOL!


34 posted on 07/26/2010 3:00:10 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: Do Be
Why are there no names or photos in this story? Common, a teenager too fat to sit in one seat and nobody thought to take a picture.

No recent photos of the kid, but here he is in his younger years.

35 posted on 07/26/2010 3:00:22 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: MissTed

OK, all you fat-haters, you are assuming the teen did not have to pay for the seat because the short, skinny woman said so. The article says no such thing, and if you read Southwest’s policy, they MAKE oversized passengers pay for the seat, if the plane is full. The article has conveniently left out whether or not the teen was charged the full fare, but their policy on their website states clearly that they must if they cannot put down the arm rests. The oversized passenger (the teen) likely paid for the seat because she had to. The skinny lady was a late arrival (standby) so, she was not guaranteed a seat, and the ‘fattie’ teenager, as you people have judged her, had bought a seat.

I think you people are being very unfair to the child in this situation. Fat teens are subjected to humiliation all the time. Fat adults are subjected to humiliation all the time. In my opinion, the ‘grown-up’ in this situation, with the STANDBY ticket behaved like a child. I don’t care if she paid full fare.

And many of you are reacting like children as well. Think about that poor teenager and how humiliating this incident probably was for him/her. I see people who are on standby not make it on the plane all the time. They don’t cry like little babies about it.


36 posted on 07/26/2010 3:00:22 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: oneamericanvoice
I feel bad for the lady, but she was flying “standby”. She did not have a seat on that flight.

Yes, actually, she did. She had a seat as soon as they gave her one on standby, presumably because the girl was late. SWA fooked up by taking the woman's seat and giving it to the girl.

37 posted on 07/26/2010 3:00:42 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sure I've heard of grits. I just never actually *seen* a grit before.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

See post 29.

As I understand ‘standy’, you will be boarded and seated if a fully booked plane has a ‘no-show’.

Evidently she was boarded. She was on the plane. Per the article; she was asked to leave the plane.

If you’re on a plane, then yeah. You DO have a reason to expect to fly.

Unless SWA has an idiot policy that allows latecomers to hold up 100 + people and board at will.


38 posted on 07/26/2010 3:01:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: MissTed
Not really Southwest's fault. They get beat up either way. The determining factor in this case appears to be that the woman who was asked to deplane was flying standby.

Southwest would have been asking for a lawsuit if they booted off the customer who had booked in advance in order to make room for a standby customer.

39 posted on 07/26/2010 3:03:13 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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“If the fat teen had previously reserved his two seat and paid for them in advance”...

Fatty paid for one seat. If fatty could not fit in the seat, then fatty shouldn’t fly until he or she buys another ticket. But since the last ticket has been sold at full price, fatty should have had to wait.


40 posted on 07/26/2010 3:03:26 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: MissTed
The breating was a good thing.

Where I come from that'd be worth a free flight later that evening, and two vouchers for future flights. I'm all for the pound of flesh gambit.

41 posted on 07/26/2010 3:04:50 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sure I've heard of grits. I just never actually *seen* a grit before.)
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To: omega4179

Frequent fliers will know that sometimes you can get to the airport sooner than you had expected and try to catch an earlier flight. If your ticket isn’t unrestricted, you have to pay for the change and be willing to standby for the earlier flight. I’d say something like this was going on.

Having flown South West frequently, I’ve observed that they do not like to turn away late arriving passengers who miss the 20 minute gate check-in window where their reservation is subject to cancellation and a standby can be given their seat. SW tries to accommodate these last-minute folks.

I’m guessing the kid had tickets for two seats and rather than send an airplane out with an open seat, the agent elected to pull the standby and seat the doublet thus filling out the cabin. Just my very educated guess.


42 posted on 07/26/2010 3:04:56 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: MissTed

The biggest mistake SW made was letting this get into the news. They could have bought the girls silence for a lot less than a year of free flying.


43 posted on 07/26/2010 3:05:00 PM PDT by super7man
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To: Ready4Freddy

‘berating’


44 posted on 07/26/2010 3:07:07 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sure I've heard of grits. I just never actually *seen* a grit before.)
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To: oneamericanvoice
"The kid might have a medical condition rather than just liking to eat."

You make a good point. Upon reading the article I just assumed overweight=overeating, a medical problem didn't even occur to me. Anyway you look at it being fourteen and obese must be pretty hard, whatever the reason.

45 posted on 07/26/2010 3:08:07 PM PDT by Mila
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To: achilles2000

Can someone please find the information in the article where it said the teenager was late arriving? I can’t find it anywhere. Oh, that’s because people on this thread are making assumptions about what happened and judging this young person unfairly because of their prejudices.


46 posted on 07/26/2010 3:08:15 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: MissTed

Original article
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/07/24/2911747/petite-flier-booted-off-southwest.html
The key sentence:
Why the extra concern? The person(girl) requiring two seats was just 14 years old.


47 posted on 07/26/2010 3:08:40 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: MissTed

Southwest was probably hamstrung by federal law, anti-discrimination against the fat kid.

Believe me, the airline would rather sell the extra seat that obese passengers may now demand for free. It’s an absurdity, but the airlines’ hands are tied.

The skinny lady’s problem was that, even paying full-fare, she was flying standby, which meant she was at the top of the bump list if she didn’t have a confirmed reservation.


48 posted on 07/26/2010 3:09:07 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: erkyl

The article is short on info so we don’t the situation or whether the teenage girl had paid for both seats or was charged for the seat when it became evident it was needed in order for her to fly. Apparently the girl had a seat booked and it maybe that the standby seat was needed to meet the requirements of the airline’s “customer of size regs”. We just don’t know.

You are correct about the guidelines for seats according to the Southwest Airlines website.

Southwest Airline Site:

Guidelines for Customers of Size

Customers who are unable to lower both armrests and/or who compromise any portion of adjacent seating should proactively book the number of seats needed prior to travel. The armrest is considered to be the definitive boundary between seats and measures 17 inches in width. This purchase serves as a notification of a special seating need and allows us to process a refund of the additional seating cost after travel (provided the flight doesn’t oversell). Most importantly, it ensures that all onboard have access to safe and comfortable seating.

For more information, please refer to our Customer of size Q&A: http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/cos_qa.html


49 posted on 07/26/2010 3:09:19 PM PDT by deport
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To: super7man

Or the woman’s.


50 posted on 07/26/2010 3:09:27 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Sure I've heard of grits. I just never actually *seen* a grit before.)
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