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Is There Any Enforcement They Support?
National Review The Corner ^ | July 27, 2010 | Mark Kirkorian

Posted on 07/27/2010 12:38:55 PM PDT by La Lydia

The Secure Communities program is intended to make systematic and universal the identification of illegal aliens in police custody — not people pulled over for speeding or broken taillights but those actually booked and fingerprinted. The whole point of the program, politically, is to move away from deporting "ordinary" illegal aliens (i.e., those guilty only of tax crimes, identity-fraud crimes, employment crimes, etc.) and focus only on illegals who have committed "real" crimes. It doesn't even guarantee that all those found to be illegal aliens will actually be deported; as promotional material for the program says:

ICE prioritizes the removal of criminal aliens by focusing efforts on the most dangerous and violent offenders. This includes criminal aliens determined to be removable and charged with or convicted of crimes such as homicide, rape, robbery, kidnapping, major drug offenses, or those involving threats to national security.

And yet the open-borders people still don't like the program:

DENVER — The federal government is rapidly expanding a program to identify illegal immigrants using fingerprints from arrests, drawing opposition from local authorities and advocates who argue the initiative amounts to an excessive dragnet.

The program has gotten less attention than Arizona's new immigration law, but it may end up having a bigger impact because of its potential to round up and deport so many immigrants nationwide.

The San Francisco sheriff wanted nothing to do with the program, and the City Council in Washington, D.C., blocked use of the fingerprint plan in the nation's capital. Colorado is the latest to debate the program, called Secure Communities, and immigrant groups have begun to speak up, telling the governor in a letter last week that the initiative will make crime victims reluctant to cooperate with police "due to fear of being drawn into the immigration regime." . . .

Since everyone arrested would be screened, the program could easily deport more people than Arizona's new law, said Sunita Patel, an attorney who filed a lawsuit in New York against the federal government on behalf of a group worried about the program. Patel said that because illegal immigrants could be referred to ICE at the point of arrest, even before a conviction, the program can create an incentive for profiling and create a pipeline to deport more people.

"It has the potential to revolutionize immigration enforcement," said Patel.

"Revolutionize" immigration enforcement by actually, you know, enforcing immigration law. But considering that San Francisco does allow checking immigration status for those booked for felonies, can't the same arguments be applied? Won't victims of felonies be "reluctant to cooperate with police" if felons are screened? And, anyway, is it right to deport someone who's put down roots here for having committed only one murder? Shouldn't we limit immigration checks only to multiple murderers?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; enforcement; lawenforcement; openborders; rino; sanctuary
Short answer to his question is, no, the open borders folks don't want ANY enforcement.
1 posted on 07/27/2010 12:38:56 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

We need to begin actively investigating these people who act to protect the criminals who prey on the honest people. Only criminals work so hard to protect other criminals. I don’t care what their fancy titles are. Hire P.I.s and dig deep and I’ll bet you find felonies amongst these “advocates” too.


2 posted on 07/27/2010 12:43:37 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: La Lydia

I can’t recall any major crimes ever being solved thanks to the help of our crimaliens here in Minnesota.

but that’s the favorite line of LEO chiefs and their unions here in MPLS and ST.Paul (both sanctuary cities,BTW)


3 posted on 07/27/2010 12:47:43 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: WOBBLY BOB

What, illegals aliens aren’t turning in their brothers-in-law who are criminal illegal aliens despite the fact they all live in a sanctuary city? Who would have guessed?


4 posted on 07/27/2010 12:49:39 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Is There Any Enforcement They Support?

No, and the nonsense the open borders folks put forth trying to avoid all enforcement becomes more absurd every day. But that won't stop them from pretending the civil rights and human rights of every living human are threatened if we enforce any immigration laws at all.

5 posted on 07/27/2010 12:51:27 PM PDT by Will88
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To: La Lydia

Simple answer is “no”. They are, after all, open border advocates....’enforcement’ or ‘illegal’ has no place in their vocabulary. =.=


6 posted on 07/27/2010 12:58:26 PM PDT by cranked
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To: La Lydia

The leftard LEOS high up the blame chain like to claim illegals won’t help them solve crimes if they don’t feel coddled and cared for by the police.

(I know a lot fewer crimes would need solving if the illegals weren’t here in the 1st place.)

Again, I have never read of any serious unsolved crimes here in the Twin Cities that would otherwise not have happened had it not been for help from the crimalien community.

And with all our leftist media in town, I’m sure they would trumpet ANY such incident as proof positive that we need MORE illegals if we want to see reductions in crime and that random acts of kindess will soon break out between MS-13 and the Latin Kings.


7 posted on 07/27/2010 12:59:30 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: La Lydia

They want tax laws enforced against conservatives.


8 posted on 07/27/2010 1:06:51 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: La Lydia
The whole point of the program, politically, is to move away from deporting "ordinary" illegal aliens (i.e., those guilty only of tax crimes, identity-fraud crimes, employment crimes, etc.) and focus only on illegals who have committed "real" crimes.

Ordinary illegal aliens? Tax crimes and identity theft - these are now ordinary?

Can I do it and not get arrested?

9 posted on 07/27/2010 1:17:37 PM PDT by donna (Who decided that the Tea Party should become the Feminist Party?)
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To: donna
Tax crimes and identity theft - these are now ordinary?

those are entrance qualifications to get into Obamaville.

10 posted on 07/27/2010 1:39:02 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

And Secure Communities program limps along in second place in popularity.....


11 posted on 07/27/2010 1:41:34 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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