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To: Sherman Logan
True enough of Americans as a whole. Doesn’t offend me in the least, but if a white person or Republican had said it all hell would break loose.

Understandably, since there are some very negative connotations to the word "mongrel" - and people speaking about groups they belong to have far more latitude to say negative things than when they're talking about a group they don't belong to.

But agree completely about it being true enough of all Americans. One of my room-mates in my freshman year of college - he was from Nigeria - pointed this out to me: most American blacks don't look like Africans born in sub-Saharan Africa. They tend to be lighter skinned and their facial features aren't the same as Africans. And I'd guess many people of European or any other descent whose ancestors came here sufficiently long ago have some combination of racial heritages in them.

Given enough time and modern transportation, the human race will probably become a uniform shade of light brown at some point and we can fight over other stuff.
36 posted on 07/29/2010 8:59:59 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Given enough time and modern transportation, the human race will probably become a uniform shade of light brown at some point and we can fight over other stuff.”

As a fair-skinned, green-eyed blonde with predominately Scots-Irish ancestry, I’m already seeing the tables turn.


51 posted on 07/29/2010 9:24:33 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

If I want to change colors, I walk on the beach for about a week or go to a tanning salon. Or, in reverse, Michael Jackson had his skin bleached. It’s ludicrous to discuss skin color because that’s what Obama wants us to do so he can keep dividing us. I object to him calling the people he’s supposed to be the leader of “mongrels”.


86 posted on 07/29/2010 2:08:19 PM PDT by floriduh voter (On The View, Barack Obama said Americans were all mongrels, i.e. dogs.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
i think your friend from nigeria not aware of the different looks in africa itself.he is wrong to say most african amercians do not look like africans born in africa. many of the african american i seen look basically like the african i seen.

i seen quite a number of folks from nigeria that look like the average african americans and other areas of africa. it depends on the ethnic groups and individuals in certian groups.

when a family from mali died in new york a few years in a fire,they look no different then the average african american i seen,but has a whole african americans still do look clearly african if someone was to take a really good look had go around the country.

keep in mind that the most african americans that do have admixture is about 12.5 european admxture on ,so that is not enough to have a group features change, that is why african american have 12.5 or even 20% european admixture still look like they are clearly african it takes more admixture or over 20% to have a impact on changing the features of a group or individual,and this may not be the case always.

the higher the admixture the more of a chance the features will slighty be different,but keep in mind too that there are few african groups that have features that look more european looking like straight noses and they are unmixed by recent dna findings.

Another point is that most african americans are a mixture of different african ethnic groups,so on average will look different then the average african has a whole anyway,and most do not need to be mixed to have a slighty different look then the average african.

Africans are so diverse so it's not fair to compare Africans americans to Africans has awhole.

the best way to compare looks is by breaking it down to the individual ethnic groups in africa and compare what ethnic groups that look closer to african americans has whole,AND MOST folks tend not to do this in america or in africa.i take the latter back,in africa most still tend to see africa american has african and looking basiaclly like them them,but depends on the groups.out of all the racial groups african ameriacan tend to still basiacally look african if you had to put africanamerican in a racial box.i realized it's only african americans,will most of them that try to say they look different then africans,while most of the world tend to disagree.

i Had to laugh when this woman said she was an african american and the white lady said oh,what country you are from in africa,and the black lady got upset,for what?this clearly means that the lady seen her,and to her she look no different then an african.

anyway
For example sahel african ten to look more closer to african americans then most central africans,because of the slender built the average sahel african has.

central africans tend to have a broad head built.african americans tend to have more slender built,have more longer heads,well this is not the average african look,but there are africans do have this look.so when someone says that the average african american does not look like the average african,they are saying that they do not have the average head shape.

alot of Senegalese for an example look like african americans if you take a very close look at them,but they tend to be darker skin,now there are africans that tend to be almost or basically have the same skin tone has the average african american,like south africans,but they tend to have a broader head.

combine these africans,but them on a island for a few gen. and believe me they will come out looking more like a african american has awhole too or certain other ethnic africans.

here is a dna study =for the average african american.

quote-
Kittles noted that about 30 percent of African-Americans’ Y-chromosomes originated in Europe.
Kittles, for example, has a Y-chromosome common in Germany, not Africa. “My father had told me for a long time that I had a white ancestor on our paternal line. So, the test confirmed it goes back to Germany.”

In contrast, only about 5 percent of African-Americans’ mitochondrial DNA comes from Europe, making the maternal line test a surer bet for those primarily interested in their black ancestors. (If African Ancestry finds the customer's DNA doesn't go back to Africa, it can search its databases of European gene markers.)

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this means that up to 35% to mayybe 40% of african americans have some form of admixture by recent dna findings,and most are not mixed all.

even if most were,the admixture in african americans is not high enough to change the facial features for most african americans.

most africans american in other words still look clearly african,the do not look mulatto and any slight differrences on average is the result from the combine ethnic backgrounds from africa itself and not a result from admixture.

like i sad you could find groups in africa or individual,mixed or not mixed that look basically more like african americans,or i should say it this way african american would look more like them,since they that look was in africa first before there was such a thing has african american.oh,and most african are unmixed.

sorry for long explanation,but it had to be said. there is a new term called africod,please if any one has time look it up.thanks..
that's all i have to really say about this and just wanted to clear up some misinfo.

99 posted on 07/30/2010 6:58:58 AM PDT by mace11
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