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MI Man not the Dad, but Owes the State Welfare Reimbursement Anyway
www.fathersandfamilies.org ^ | July 29, 2010 | Robert Franklin, Esq.

Posted on 07/29/2010 12:29:32 PM PDT by fathers1

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To: OldPossum
One could do what the OldPossum did many moons ago: get a vasectomy.

"Zipped" or "snipped", that's the ticket...LOL.

41 posted on 07/29/2010 5:42:31 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
No, these guys wanted to play, now they must pay.

If I take my gun to the range, and shoot all day, but someone gets killed by someone else on the other side of town, should I do time for the murder?

No.

And the guys who aren't the father shouldn't get stuck with the father's tab, either.

You are advocating a miscarriage of justice based on a consensual act, the result of which (mere mutual gratification, without issue) does not justify the seizure of liberty or property for the stated reasons.

While I agree, in principle, that celibacy is the best course, the absence thereof is not just cause to rob these men under false pretenses if they are not the father.

42 posted on 07/30/2010 12:49:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
While I agree, in principle, that celibacy is the best course, the absence thereof is not just cause to rob these men under false pretenses if they are not the father...

Pretty amazing, isn't it...in the minds of many, commit the act and throw away your rights forever...anything goes.

That's sick and twisted. And, you guys who are single...absorb every bit of this twisted malice you can.

Guys should not get married; they should get vasectomies ASAP.

Or, as they say in a slightly different context...go Galt.

Give these sick birds (and society) what they're asking for.

Let them regret that it's not what they wanted.

43 posted on 07/30/2010 1:26:41 AM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: gogeo
Oh, I'm not single, I'm a great-grandpa, but still wrong is wrong, and right is right. It takes two to tangle, and whatever happens is between those two and God, as far as I am concerned, if there is no begetting done.

That's no cause for the State or its agents who represent the citizens of the State, out of laziness or petulence, to rob someone who is innocent of paternity for someone else's issue.

Supporting such just makes one a party to the larceny, imho.

44 posted on 07/30/2010 2:04:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
 
No, these guys wanted to play, now they must pay.

If I take my gun to the range, and shoot all day


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lolol
 
The irony of the metaphor you used does not escape me. After all, that's what these two guys in the story wanted to do; to take the guns to the range and shoot all day.
 
 


45 posted on 07/30/2010 6:30:43 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: fathers1; All
I lived in Michigan for 10 years. I have a close friend, who, back in the 90's, had his wife leave him because she was having an affair with her boss. Long story short: They divorced. Not only did he have to pay child support, he had to pay Alimony to her while she and her new lover shacked up in his house in front of his kids. TRUE STORY!!
46 posted on 07/30/2010 7:18:55 AM PDT by no dems (Palin/Jindal in 2012 or Jindal/Christie in 2012. Either is fine with me.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
After all, that's what these two guys in the story wanted to do; to take the guns to the range and shoot all day.

Yep. But they didn't 'kill' anyone. For all I know, they may have been shooting blanks...

47 posted on 07/30/2010 2:54:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If there was justice the mother would be ordered to pay back the excess plus a hefty fine for not notifying him. It would be interesting to know what she did with his money after the child died.


48 posted on 07/30/2010 3:04:59 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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