[UnwashedPeasant]

We are two culturally different peoples that take turns at governing one another. Unlike the Revolution and the War Between the States, this time both sides will agree to a split. Below is the secession map that Liberals proposed when John Kerry was defeated in 2004.

We can still have a NATO-like association between the Free States and the Fascist States for defense, etc. In the right context, Liberals can support state rights. For example, Vermont can have unlimited sodomy and infanticide, without Oklahoma getting a vote on it.

[JSDude1]

You shouldn’t give up western canada and New Hampshire to the liberals, though, just my 2!~

[wendy1946]

That would almost work. We'd need one left-coast port which was either ours or we had guaranteed access to and they'd need some sort of a guarantee of food and then there's a question about Vermont, NH, Md. and a couple of other states which are only blue by dint of one or two cities, i.e. you take Baltimore and Montgomery counties out of Md. and it's a perfectly normal red state.

Democracy is a fairly good system for governing a more or less homogeneous people with shared ideas and values. It was never meant to be a system for sharing power between two or more groups with little or nothing in common at all who basically just hate each other. At that point, and we ARE at that point now, all you have left is a contest to see who can do the better job of gaming the system.

If the dem party can be decisively defeated in this coming election then there might yet be some hope of keeping the country together as it exists. Otherwise we'd probably be better off to split up.