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Real Sherrod Story Still Untold
The American Thinker ^ | 7-30-10 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/30/2010 4:05:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: Mere Survival
Great point!!! The article is confusing as HELL!!

HOW MUCH DID THE SHERRODS GET FROM US, the TAXPAYERS??

101 posted on 07/30/2010 11:21:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: bvw
We're down to the "angels on a head of a pin" level at this point.

In the common idiom of our time, you "excerpt" something when you pull a contiguous, unaltered piece from a larger piece. It is a specific type of edit, but that specificity is important and relevant to this case.

The more general term "edit" implies much more than simple excerpting, and is being used with ominous and disingenuous overtones in this case.

It is being used that way with intent.

102 posted on 07/30/2010 11:51:38 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: bvw

THe example I cited was NOT about an exerpt.
It was a tv interview in which I was asked questions and gave answers.The interview ran from its beinning to its end — but two sentences of a five sentence paragraph of what I said was deliberately edited out to make it look as though a satement that I was condemning was actually my statement. What was shown was an edited version of the interview, not an exerpt of the interview. An exerpt of the interview would have contained the first three minutes, unedited, or the middle three minutes, unedited, or the last part, undedited. Kind of like all of chapter one. or all of chapter two — not chapter one with, say, all the references to nudity edited out.
Edit in film and video has a specific meaning in contemporary media. It means to deliberately alter content that IS SHOWN, not to extract a piece. Think of it that if
the musical numbers from a movie were experpted — that would mean that you didn’t see the movie, just the musical numbers. Then imagine that someone didn’t like the lead actress for some reason, so in the movie her reaction shots and close-ups were cut out, to cut down her part and minimize her importance in the story. That’s editing.


103 posted on 07/30/2010 1:58:21 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: screaminsunshine

86,000 black “farmers” were awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars each yet there have never been more than 40,000 black farmers in the entire US for the past 40 years. Not only was it reparations, it was flat out FRAUD.


104 posted on 07/30/2010 2:16:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Satan is a Democrat and Obama is his minion.)
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To: kabumpo

Editing by means of excerpting, right?


105 posted on 07/30/2010 2:17:02 PM PDT by bvw
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To: dead

Those angels must be the one dancing over at the “On the Pin Club.”

It really doesn’t matter if the extracted product is one part of a whole or multiple parts. It also doesn’t matter if the parts are resequenced.

Even a perfectly whole and of reasonably-high fidelity audio-visual recording is only a piece of of the whole truth. It starts and stops somewhere, the interval it recorded is someone’s choice, a subjective choice. The lighting, the framing, the location of the recording devices — all color and filter the reality as it occurred.

The best we can do in using such recordings is what? Most accepted way of dealing with recordings is (1) to insist on a chain of custody within the reliable hands able to testify honestly under penalty of perjury, (2) insist on a whole unaltered original or a copy of 100% fidelity. Anything less is “edited”, altered, modified.

Still, such conditions rarely accrue. Instead we get reduced fidelity images, cropping in images, extracts in text, audio and video, and even resequencing, old-school air-brushing, modern photoshopping or advanced video editing — products of more filtering beyond the filtering of reality that the original recording was.

This is where human character, personal integrity — the concept of an honest witness — comes into play. Is the prepared product a faithful representation of reality? That’s really the question to ask.

Breitbart, in my current view, presented a faithful representation of the reality of Mrs. Sherrod’s views on race with his edited video. I can say that because the take of people based on the tape — that she is racist, imo — is consistent with her recent actions, and the reports of her activities regarding the lawsuit against the Ag Dept.


106 posted on 07/30/2010 2:54:23 PM PDT by bvw
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“Although 86,000 black farmers are alleged to have received payments, at no time in the last three decades have there been more than 40,000 black farmers.”

Let’s get that factoid into the Fox News cycle...

Liars and cheats...


107 posted on 07/30/2010 2:57:04 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: bvw

If you went into the editing room of a film or tv show or news story being worked on, and the producer/director/boss said to the editor, “have you done the edits? Is the piece finished yet?” No editor would then give the boss an experpt from the show as proof that it was finished in its final edit. Because an experpt is something different.


108 posted on 07/30/2010 3:05:14 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Mere Survival

You pretty much echoed what I have read.

LLS


109 posted on 07/30/2010 4:10:47 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

BTTT!


110 posted on 07/31/2010 11:00:40 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: gusopol3
The good news is that she’ll be suing Breitbart.

How is that "good news"?


Runaway Slave

111 posted on 07/31/2010 2:08:12 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: itsahoot

Ping to self


112 posted on 07/31/2010 2:42:39 PM PDT by itsahoot (Republican leadership got us here, only God can get us out.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"We must not be afraid to vote black."

As if they haven't already.

113 posted on 07/31/2010 3:00:29 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Never trust a liberal.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“which showed Sherrod as a recovering racist, not as a practicing one”

freeking laughable.


114 posted on 07/31/2010 4:14:06 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: rdb3

I’m not sure whether your question is rhetorical, with the video as the answer; I’m sure Shirley and her husband consider these people “Uncle Toms.” The more that comes out in discovery,the more Breitbart’s point is proven , that she is “someone that hasn’t gotten beyond race.”


115 posted on 07/31/2010 7:16:17 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: bvw
Let's answer your side question. What does 'gender' mean and how is that word used, and does it apply to marriage?

Yes let's. See the below excerpt from your post.

Usage Note:

Traditionally, gender has been used primarily to refer to the grammatical categories of "masculine," "feminine," and "neuter," but in recent years the word has become well established in its use to refer to sex-based categories, as in phrases such as gender gap and the politics of gender. This usage is supported by the practice of many anthropologists, who reserve sex for reference to biological categories, while using gender to refer to social or cultural categories. According to this rule, one would say The effectiveness of the medication appears to depend on the sex (not gender) of the patient, but In peasant societies, gender (not sex) roles are likely to be more clearly defined.

Based on the usage note it is more proper to use 'persons of opposite gender' when referring to marriage as a social contract.

Hope that enlightens you!

Now remember back to what the main point of my posting was..... WORDS HAVE MEANING. If we let the liberals define the words they will win the discussion. We have to maintain control of the terms of debate.

You have provided me an excellent example of losing control of the language.

Prior to redefining "gender" to apply to people, there was no possible way to advance homosexual marriage. Marriage was one man and one woman. "Sex" is genetically determined and immutable. Once a man, always a man.

Gender however can change with the wind. Some of us (not me obviously) allowed "gender" to be applied to people and those who have allowed this have lost control of the discussion. How can you block perverts from marrying if you cannot restrict marriage to a union between the opposite sexes. You cannot.

We lost control of the terms and are losing the debate (Because in the greater public's mind "gender" can now be applied to people.)

So we are back to WORDS HAVE MEANING. Notice that as I excerpted your post I did not edit it. I changed nothing.

Excerpt is not edit. Edit is not excerpt.

116 posted on 07/31/2010 8:09:20 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

Excerpting is a form of editing, both old-school and new PC-correct dictionaries agree on that point.


117 posted on 07/31/2010 8:58:23 PM PDT by bvw
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To: gusopol3
I’m not sure whether your question is rhetorical, with the video as the answer; I’m sure Shirley and her husband consider these people “Uncle Toms.” The more that comes out in discovery,the more Breitbart’s point is proven , that she is “someone that hasn’t gotten beyond race.”

That's what I missed, discovery.

My apologies. I, too, hope she does sue Breitbart so he can mop the floor with her.


Runaway Slave

118 posted on 07/31/2010 10:50:27 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
[Article] Flush with revenue in 1999 and eager to appease this bedrock constituency, the administration settled with the farmers ....

"Eager to appease black voters and prospective jurors in the District of Columbia, which is where any criminal charges brought by Special Prosecutor Ken Starr against President Clinton would have to be tried, ....."

Would be the real reason.

It was also the reason Clinton took his "I'm sorry for America" political safari to (laughing and pointing) Africa, the safari "advanced" by political point-man Joe Wilson.

In 1999, after his impeachment trial, sucking up to black DC voters was what Slick Willie was all about.

119 posted on 08/01/2010 12:41:41 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Ann Archy
FOX needs to have WILLIE BROWN on!!!

Oh, come on, Ann..... Willie's as crooked (if not moreso) than any of them. Back when he was speaker of the California House, earning a grand total of $30K/year in honest salary, the man had a closet stuffed with Armani suits.

Think he bought all those back when he was a trial lawyer repping for pimps and pushers in Gay Bay?

Come on.

The only thing I want to hear from Willie Brown is "Adios, I'm going to try my luck in Botswana/Bermuda/Malaysia."

120 posted on 08/01/2010 12:45:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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