[Uncle Chip]

Legal opinions can be dangerous things when read by people who weren't trained to understand them.

So are forged government documents in the hands of Federal Judges.

[OldDeckHand]

"So are forged government documents in the hands of Federal Judges."

Documents - forged or otherwise - that aren't relevant to the central legal question(s) posed by the case, are for all practical purposes wholly irrelevant.

Yes, it is a punishable offense to knowingly submit fraudulent documents or to knowingly make fraudulent representations and statements to the court. But NONE of these cases have been decided based on any documentary evidence provided to court. They have all been dismissed because of either FRCP 12(b)(6) and FRCP 12(b)(1) problems or because of the non-Justiciability and political question doctrine. That's it.

I'm not sure why this is so hard for so many to grasp. It's fairly elementary. If plaintiffs don't have standing to file suit, the case is dismissed. If plaintiffs fail to state a claim upon which relief can be granted, then the case is dismissed.

[jamese777]

So are forged government documents in the hands of Federal Judges.

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If any federal judge wants to see the original document, they can issue a subpoena for it from the Hawaii Department of Health. What judges usually accept is a deposition from the Director of the state agency where the document resides or from the Registrar of Records for that state authenticating the vital record.