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Police: Officer Baited In Altercation That Injured Him (staged fight)
theindychannel ^ | Tuesday August 3, 2010

Posted on 08/03/2010 3:19:27 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Sgt. Matthew Grimes was asked to give a presentation to a church audience on July 24 at Municipal Gardens, in the 1800 block of Lafayette Road.

During the presentation, an altercation broke out in the crowd, and Grimes intervened. The officer was thrown to the ground and drew his Taser, ready to stun one of the people involved, police said.

At that point, someone stepped in and told the officer that the incident had been concocted to test the reaction of the officer to the situation, police said. Grimes suffered severe back spasms after the incident and was taken to Methodist Hospital for treatment.

James Harrington, pastor of the Mt. Vernon Missionary Baptist Church, said he set up the scenario to test a white officer's reaction to a fight between two black men.

"Their job is to protect and serve, and even though they have families and children, that they don't put any regard to their safety," Harrington said. "I don't think it was dangerous because it was in a controlled environment."

Harrington denied that the officer was injured.

"We are trying to do anything that we can to save the lives of our children," he said. "We have to have live demonstrations of violence carried on by professional actors who are trained to do what they do."

Willard Gupton, a park manager who police said had advance knowledge of the plan, was suspended in the wake of the incident.

"I can basically say we didn't do anything wrong," Gupton said Friday evening. "It was simply just trying to make a teachable moment, to try and teach young people about violence."

(Excerpt) Read more at theindychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: elelctions; leo; obama; officerdown; police; race; racism
What the ?
1 posted on 08/03/2010 3:19:30 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Nuts!


2 posted on 08/03/2010 3:21:33 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Bigtigermike

GD headcases...


3 posted on 08/03/2010 3:21:59 PM PDT by jessduntno (I wonder...how will third Manassas turn out?)
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To: Bigtigermike

I read this and started thinking, he was probably being setup for a civil rights lawsuit against the city and a little “Race Baiting” publicity for some activists.....likely happens much more than we can even imagine.


4 posted on 08/03/2010 3:23:21 PM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Didn’t Obama use the phrase “teachable moment” with regards to the Gates incident?

Sickening...


5 posted on 08/03/2010 3:25:37 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Bigtigermike
The officer was thrown to the ground and drew his Taser, ready to stun

I'm impressed that he didn't cap a half dozen people.

Old ladies, kids.. whoever was in range.

6 posted on 08/03/2010 3:26:10 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Bigtigermike

Since it didn’t end up on Youtube I guess they didn’t get what they wanted.


7 posted on 08/03/2010 3:26:17 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s lawsuit time, and make it a big one.


8 posted on 08/03/2010 3:28:10 PM PDT by steve8714 (Our long national nightmare is over. We can resume our proper disdain for soccer.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Can we all simply agree that teachable moments suck and we shouldn’t have them anymore? Please?


9 posted on 08/03/2010 3:29:52 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Bigtigermike

My gawd that’s just industrial-strength stupid.

Something like that could easily go very badly.


10 posted on 08/03/2010 3:31:58 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Bigtigermike

Assault

Conspiracy

Hate crimes

cival liabity for injuries to officer.


11 posted on 08/03/2010 3:31:58 PM PDT by maine yankee
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To: Bigtigermike
James Harrington, pastor of the Mt. Vernon Missionary Baptist Church, said he set up the scenario to test a white officer's reaction to a fight between two black men.

Sounds like somebody tried to set the officer up but he didn't bite.
12 posted on 08/03/2010 3:32:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: humblegunner
"Their job is to protect and serve, and even though they have families and children, that they don't put any regard to their safety," Harrington said.

Hey Reverend, let me introduce you to new concept. It's called Conspiracy, as in conspiracy to disrupt the peace and conspiracy to assault a police officer. You are guilty of PWS, preaching while stupid, and admitting your crime to the public.

13 posted on 08/03/2010 3:33:04 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Bigtigermike

It brings to mind the story about the boy who cried “wolf!”. Maybe next time the officers won’t take the situation seriously.


14 posted on 08/03/2010 3:35:27 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Bigtigermike

On several occasions as a state peace officer I’ve had people come up and say, “Hey could we play a *joke* on old so-and-so? Just *pretend* to arrest him and...”. It’s amazing the level of stupidity out there and we wonder how we got Obama??


15 posted on 08/03/2010 3:37:18 PM PDT by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: USNBandit
Since it didn’t end up on Youtube I guess they didn’t get what they wanted.

Great observation.
Exactly right.

16 posted on 08/03/2010 3:37:57 PM PDT by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: Avid Coug
It brings to mind the story about the boy who cried “wolf!”. Maybe next time the officers won’t take the situation seriously.

I thought the same thing. Next time these airheads dial 9-1-1 for real, the Dispatcher should tell 'em the criminals are probably just actors and that isn't real blood emanating from a victim's gsw.

17 posted on 08/03/2010 3:42:01 PM PDT by kromike
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To: Avid Coug

My guess:

1. A second officer will always be assigned to assist the speaking officer at future presentations.

2. Officers will do fewer presentations.


18 posted on 08/03/2010 3:42:03 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Here’s a teachable moment. Pastor Harrington, who retired and made you Sergeant Grimes’ training officer?


19 posted on 08/03/2010 3:44:14 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Bigtigermike

Isn’t this ‘post-racial’ multicultural society just great?

Must be pathetic to always be a victim.


20 posted on 08/03/2010 3:44:30 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Bigtigermike

So many charges...so many candidates.Including the “pastor”.


21 posted on 08/03/2010 3:58:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: cripplecreek

Wonder how this “Pastor”, in name only, would feel if some white folks set him or his church up for a “teachable” moment.


22 posted on 08/03/2010 4:01:22 PM PDT by elephant
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To: Bigtigermike
When is it required to have actors fight each other to demonstrate violence? Violence is visible almost everywhere, especially on TV. Showing children violence doesn't teach them anything other than how to create violence. It is the guidance of the child's parents/guardians through the teaching of good morals and values that can prevents these violent actions. This charade was completely unnecessary, and if there intentions where for teaching, at the very least the officer should have been aware of what their intentions and plans were. Those involved should have been arrested and charged with Misuse of Emergency Services, 3rd Degree Assault (Class A Misdemeanor) for those involved, and 2nd Degree Assault(Class C Felony) for the person who physically tossed the Officer to the ground.
23 posted on 08/03/2010 4:04:56 PM PDT by PJBankard (The best excuse is not needing one.)
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To: Bigtigermike

That is racism. I hope the officer takes them to the cleaners in court. There’s the teachable moment.


24 posted on 08/03/2010 4:08:13 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: brushcop

state peace officer? I don’t think there is such a thing...


25 posted on 08/03/2010 4:16:21 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Bigtigermike

A presentation at a church, so they stage a fight so the cop will react?

Is this in Indiana?

How bored can these people possibly be?


26 posted on 08/03/2010 4:53:16 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Bigtigermike
James Harrington, pastor of the Mt. Vernon Missionary Baptist Church, said he set up the scenario to test a white officer's reaction to a fight between two black men.

Gezzz...The pastor has a big ol' screw loose...

27 posted on 08/03/2010 4:55:06 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: steve8714
It’s lawsuit time, and make it a big one.

You Bet'cha~~~~~The poor cop should be able to retire and make these idiots an example of WHY you don't play with the legal system!!!!!!!!!!!

28 posted on 08/03/2010 5:09:44 PM PDT by MrPiper
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Why would you talk to these people in any case? Might as well talk to a block of wood.


29 posted on 08/03/2010 6:24:01 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: babygene

Yes, TX peace officer, several state agencies, certified peace officer, state level, not difficult to comprehend, we actually have them here.


30 posted on 08/03/2010 7:27:04 PM PDT by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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