Southern Jews and the Confederacy

Jewish Press ^ | Jul 28 2010 | Lewis Regenstein

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

If that resource isn't helpful enough, do your own research.

I have, which is how I came to find the actual federal expenditures for 1860 showing that the claim that most tariff revenue (which was by far most government revenue) was spent in the north is utter bulls***.

Of course, the fact that it came out of the Mises Institute crowed should have tipped me off.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Awesome thread; thank you.

[rockrr]

Well, first off it was Thomas Ewing, not Ulysses S. Grant that issued General Order #11. Second it doesn't mention any group, race, ethnicity, or religious affiliation - especially not Jewish people. And just to avoid a "he says - she says" here is the order:



General Order № 11.

Headquarters District of the Border,
Kansas City, August 25, 1863.

1. All persons living in Jackson, Cass, and Bates
counties, Missouri, and in that part of Vernon included in this district, except those living within one mile of the limits of Independence, Hickman's Mills, Pleasant Hill, and Harrisonville, and except those in that part of Kaw Township, Jackson County, north of Brush Creek and west of Big Blue, are hereby ordered to remove from their present places of residence within fifteen days from the date hereof.

Those who within that time establish their loyalty to the satisfaction of the commanding officer of the military station near their present place of residence will receive from him a certificate stating the fact of their loyalty, and the names of the witnesses by whom it can be shown. All who receive such certificates will be permitted to remove to any military station in this district, or to any part of the State of Kansas, except the counties of the eastern border of the State. All others shall remove out of the district. Officers commanding companies and detachments serving in the counties named will see that this paragraph is promptly obeyed.

2. All grain and hay in the field or under shelter, in the district from which inhabitants are required to remove, within reach of military stations after the 9th day of September next, will be taken to such stations and turned over to the proper officers there and report of the amount so turned over made to district headquarters, specifying the names of all loyal owners and amount of such product taken from them. All grain and hay found in such district after the 9th day of September next, not convenient to such stations, will be destroyed.

3. The provisions of General Order No. 10 from these headquarters will be at once vigorously executed by officers commanding in the parts of the district and at the station not subject to the operations of paragraph 1 of this order, and especially the towns of Independence, Westport and Kansas City.

4. Paragraph 3, General Order No. 10 is revoked as to all who have borne arms against the Government in the district since the 20th day of August, 1863.

By order of Brigadier General Ewing.
H. Hannahs, Adjt.-Gen'l.


Stupid? Sure. Counter-productive? Most certainly. Racist/antisemitic? Not in the least.

[rockrr]

I need to rescind my post. Upon further research I discover two separate “General Order #11’s”. I wondered why what I found differed so dramatically from what you had reported.

My mistake.

[beckysueb]

Good point.

[freekitty]

Good one

[B-Cause]

Thank you young lady - never knew about that. Haven’t been on the web much lately. Family medical issues.

[ml/nj]

It would have been voted out eventually.

I doubt it would have died from a vote. The Mason Dixon Line would have continually crept south as people discovered that it was cheaper to pay people and send them away for the night, than to house, clothe, and feed them; and then care for them in their old age. It's not like there weren't slaves in New York, or that lots of people died to free them.

ML/NJ

[Pelham]

Maybe by the fact that rioting occurs in northern cities.

[SouthTexas]

Thank you bump.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Thanks for the ping

Great piece of writing all too rare these days.

[left that other site]

ha ha. You got THAT Right about Grant.

I read his memoirs!

“relationships” were NOT his “forte’”

(Still communicating from the road on a cr*ppy laptop!)

[Colonel Kangaroo]

I'm sorry for being so late in replying but I've been under the weather the last few days. This is in response to the posts expressing doubt about my statement about Confederate crimes and tyranny against Southern civilians. I suggest y'all check up on a book called Bitterly Divided by professor David Williams of Valdosta State University. It does a thorough job of refuting the ":Lost Cause" myth of a united Confederacy and puts forth a strong argument that Southerners themselves deserve a large share of the credit for defeating the Confederacy.