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To: VanDeKoik
[slavery] disgraceful even by 19th century standards

You have been deluded by your upbringing which portrays slavery as the worst of all human conditions and uses it then as a justification for the destruction visited upon the southern States.

I reproduce below for you a post of mine from this past April ...

I have an advantage over you that I have a lot of books on my shelf, and I've actually read some of them. William Lloyd Garrison notwithstanding, the abolitionist movement appears to me to have been a sideshow in the years leading up to the War between the States. I suggest you have a look at Perkin's compilation Northern Editorials on Secession. This is a two volume set running to over 1000 pages. The editorials are divided into 27 categories. Altogether 495 editorials are reproduced. 17 of these are categorized as concerning "The Morality of Slavery." In a quick scan I just did, it seems the vast majority defended slavery. Here's an example:

At the risk of being charged with assuming the unthankful character of apologists for slavery, we insist here that the system should be honestly and intelligently judged; that it should be credited with all that belongs to it of humanity, generosity, justice and other noble virtues. He who asserts that none of these belongs to slavery in any degree knows not of what he affirms; or wilfully falsifies the records of daily life. And let us add that ignorance on this point, considering the magnitude of the question involved, is hardly less criminal than deliberate falsehood. [Excerpt from "Justice Applied to Slavery" from the Providence Evening Press, characterized by Perkins as politically "Independent," October 25, 1860]
Remember these are NORTHERN editorials. In the sample that Perkins picked as representative, fewer than four percent concerned the morality of slavery and most of those largely editorialized positively about it. Go to a library and check it out, or pick up a copy via bookfinder.com. (These books appear to be out of print.) It is Volume One that includes the Morality of Slavery editorials.

ML/NJ

52 posted on 08/04/2010 8:17:19 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
War between the States

Curious term. I don't understand what you are talking about.

58 posted on 08/04/2010 8:30:00 AM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: ml/nj

“You have been deluded by your upbringing which portrays slavery as the worst of all human conditions and uses it then as a justification for the destruction visited upon the southern States.”

It’s pretty darn close to the worse. The only difference between this and genocide is that at least those folks are dead right then, instead of having no stake in your own existence. To be bought a sold at some A-hole’s pleasure and profit.

Too bad the south allowed themselves to be lorded over by a power elite that moved events along to protect their little lifestyle. Maybe the whole affair could have been avoided.


73 posted on 08/04/2010 9:20:35 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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