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Lindsey Graham: Only Independents Can Fix the Political System (BARF ALERT)
U.S. News & World Report ^ | 2010-08-03 | Linda Killian

Posted on 08/08/2010 7:44:18 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, appearing on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday with Candy Crowley, had some harsh words for his Senate colleagues and for a system that thwarts any real bipartisanship. He said it’s up to the voters to let their members of Congress know enough is enough.

“The public is rightfully upset about their Congress not delivering but when we try, groups on the left and the right just yell and scream. What I want to do is make sure that we can find a way to move forward. The current status quo is unacceptable. Be mad, get involved, insist that the Congress act better,” Graham told voters.

“To me the only way that we can move the country forward is to find common ground on the big ticket items. I hope that people in the country will start rewarding that more instead of punishing it.”

Politics is driven by those on the left and the right--party activists with a stake in the current system and the stalemate. But that’s not solving the nation’s problems, he said.

“If we keep yelling at each other,” said Graham, “if we keep just saying no to each other’s ideas we’re going to have one thing in common. We’re going nowhere together.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.usnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: grahamnesty; lindseygraham; mccain; mclameslapdog; mclamesrinoparty; rino

1 posted on 08/08/2010 7:44:21 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

“Only Independents Can Fix Us...”
(paraphrased)
********************

I’m afraid this pvke is correct!

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/%E2%80%9Ci-agree-with-clyde-wilson-that-america-can%E2%80%99t-be-saved-or-returned-to-its-roots-until-the-republican-party-is-destroyed-%E2%80%9D/


2 posted on 08/08/2010 7:47:50 AM PDT by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, Our 'Novembers' Are Behind Us...If Ya Can "grok" it!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I agree with him.


3 posted on 08/08/2010 7:47:53 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: rabscuttle385
He said it’s up to the voters to let their members of Congress know enough is enough

Yes! We've had enough. More than enough of your RINO bull$hit. Time for you to step down for a real conservative Senator.

4 posted on 08/08/2010 7:48:20 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Patrick Henry and Joe Wilson...Patriots past and present!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Only the country class — as opposed to the “ruling class” can fix it.


5 posted on 08/08/2010 7:48:52 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: rabscuttle385

When are the voters of SC going to get rid of this guy?

I live in Michigan...I can understand a politician like this getting elected here...we have dozens of stupid representives.

I thought SC was a bastion of conservatism? What’s going on down there?


6 posted on 08/08/2010 7:49:18 AM PDT by kjo
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To: rabscuttle385

Lindsey has never learned the value of just keeping his mouth shut.


7 posted on 08/08/2010 7:50:14 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: rabscuttle385

Lindsey Graham needs to be fixed.


8 posted on 08/08/2010 7:50:25 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: rabscuttle385
"Only Independents Can Fix the Political System"

That leaves you out, Flimsy Gramm.

You're beholden to the racist marxist machine.


9 posted on 08/08/2010 7:52:21 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Marxism is Evil.)
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To: rabscuttle385

If the Republican party can’t be salvaged then yes.


10 posted on 08/08/2010 7:52:49 AM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: goseminoles

You’re joking, right?


11 posted on 08/08/2010 7:53:11 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: rabscuttle385

Graham is 100% wrong. The road to tyranny is paved with compromises


12 posted on 08/08/2010 7:56:48 AM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: rabscuttle385

Good, leave the GOP and start an independent party.


13 posted on 08/08/2010 7:57:22 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: rabscuttle385
South Carolina. Send this RINO packing.
14 posted on 08/08/2010 8:01:35 AM PDT by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey thingy workin for ya?)
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To: McGruff

He had a Ron Paul Democrat opposing him last time but everybody here still rallied to Gomer Graham. Are those folks happy now?


15 posted on 08/08/2010 8:05:05 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: rabscuttle385

The REAL answer is that no one can change the system and cut expenditures.

Why?

Because the Dems will rally their parasites and vote out anyone that votes for a reduction in spending and entitlements.

Even if the Dems did it (doubtful), the Repubs would scream about entitlement cuts, etc.

It has to blow up and there is no stopping it.


16 posted on 08/08/2010 8:06:01 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think some extreme viewpoints help swing the pendulum back to some sort of normalcy. It happens about every 30 years with douchebag libs. Independents serve a purpose. I would tend to think tea partiers are more independent and right of right.


17 posted on 08/08/2010 8:07:37 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles
Depends on which way those independents lean. I think we have had enough of the left leaner's, if it weren't for them we would have had a different outcome in the last Presidential election.
18 posted on 08/08/2010 8:08:19 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: rabscuttle385
“If we keep yelling at each other,” said Graham, “if we keep just saying no to each other’s ideas we’re going to have one thing in common. We’re going nowhere together.”

Why do these elitist clowns think we need to "go somewhere". Despite multitudes of manufactured crises designed to push a big government agenda, things were pretty good in this country, especially compared to the rest of the world. Their goal is to bring down the lifestyles of Americans to match the rest of the world, leaving an elitist ruling class at the top whose lifestyle is very good indeed.

Lindsey, we know where you want to take us, and we ain't going.

19 posted on 08/08/2010 8:13:29 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I would tend to think Freepers are on that fringe of conservatism that is not in line with mainstream Republican. If they weren’t, you would see “rino” thrown around so much.
We can be registered republican and have independant thought that is more convervative than the base. It helps bring issues and ideologies back in our favor.


20 posted on 08/08/2010 8:15:22 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: rabscuttle385

Please, please, please, will someone run against this guy in SC. I will start my pledge today.


21 posted on 08/08/2010 8:15:22 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: sgtyork
“To me the only way that we can move the country forward is to

Nuke DC from orbit and start from scratch.

Repeal all amendments except for the Bill of Rights,

Fire all Federal employees, no one votes except for income tax payers and veterans,

Representatives to be apportioned according to the spirit of the Constitution, no more than 200,000 constituents per Representative, increase the number of Representatives from 435 to as many as necessary.

22 posted on 08/08/2010 8:18:29 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: BigBobber
Why do these elitist clowns think we need to "go somewhere".

Right.

Many times, we, the people, are better off with gridlock. That way, we, the people, are not getting screwed by Washington.


23 posted on 08/08/2010 8:20:22 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: whitedog57
Because the Dems will rally their parasites and vote out anyone that votes for a reduction in spending and entitlements.
I think the majority is ready for someone to speak the truth. Voters in NJ, hardly a conservative bastion, are standing behind a Republican Governor who tells it like it is and is cutting spending dramatically.
24 posted on 08/08/2010 8:20:40 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: ThomasMore

Yeah, you’re right Graham, let’s just continue to agree and appease and compromise with these left wing idiots. Yeah, let’s try making them our friends, you and LUgar are good at that, and let’s vote for people like Kagan. Let’s take no stand....

You are the embodiment of what is wrong with Congress and gov’t in general. God, I wish there were term limits. Terms limits a-hole not independents is what will clean up your pathetic rhetoric and the do nothings in Congress with you.


25 posted on 08/08/2010 8:23:56 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Parying today for a new house and senate that is conservative)
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To: Rome2000
Nuke DC from orbit and start from scratch.

That might be a little extreme, but a good political fumigation in November (2010, 2012, etc.) might be a very good idea.

26 posted on 08/08/2010 8:24:26 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
FR thread of Rasmussen poll from August 6, 2010:

They seem to like what they have. Just like AZ.
27 posted on 08/08/2010 8:27:31 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rabscuttle385

Lindsey represents the limp-wrist wing of the republican party.


28 posted on 08/08/2010 8:34:29 AM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: rabscuttle385
Republicans have no power in Congress including no effective power of filibuster because Lindsey Graham himself will not permit it. Yet Lindsay blames the Republicans equally with the Democrats.


29 posted on 08/08/2010 8:36:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: paulycy

among the other things in the “closet”


30 posted on 08/08/2010 8:54:41 AM PDT by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: nikos1121

I agree 100% with term limits. 4, 2 year terms for reps...and 2, 6 year terms for senators.


31 posted on 08/08/2010 8:56:06 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Patrick Henry and Joe Wilson...Patriots past and present!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Good Boy Lyndsey! ...Good Boy!

Atta Boy! ... See The Treats You Get For Voting For Our Liberal Supreme Court Justice.

32 posted on 08/08/2010 9:04:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: rabscuttle385

Graham likes independents because they tend to be disgruntled liberals. Lieberman, Crist, Powell... There was a thought that McCain might go independent at one point.


33 posted on 08/08/2010 9:05:51 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: nathanbedford
Republicans have no power in Congress including no effective power of filibuster because Lindsey Graham himself will not permit it. Yet Lindsay blames the Republicans equally with the Democrats.

That has to be the shortest post ever by you. Not complaining just remarking.

34 posted on 08/08/2010 9:10:11 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: raybbr
I was called down to dinner. :-)


35 posted on 08/08/2010 9:15:11 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: rabscuttle385

In Graham’s convoluted brain, independent means RINO.


36 posted on 08/08/2010 9:19:27 AM PDT by pallis
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To: rabscuttle385
“To me the only way that we can move the country forward is to find common ground on the big ticket items. I hope that people in the country will start rewarding that more instead of punishing it.”

Ol' Grahamnesty's problem, like most RINOs and liberals, is that they think this lunge towards communism is "moving the country forward". He's so full of crap that his roots are brown.

This country needs to move backwards, towards the small-government, low-tax, freedom-oriented constitutional republic that it once was prior to the power-hungry morons taking hold of the steering wheel.

Lindsay Graham must go.

37 posted on 08/08/2010 9:25:38 AM PDT by meyer (Our own government has become our enemy,...)
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To: Brilliant

Perhaps Grahamnesty is getting pressure from the Republican party to leave, in which case he would likely become an independent. Although I don’t think the repubLICKan party has the sense to remove this worthless RINO from their fold. They haven’t run Olympia Snow-job and that Collins bimbo out yet, and neither one is even remotely conservative.


38 posted on 08/08/2010 9:31:25 AM PDT by meyer (Our own government has become our enemy,...)
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To: rabscuttle385

Tell Kotex boy to STFU. He’s the PROBLEM! Just go away you stupid queen loser.


39 posted on 08/08/2010 9:39:21 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: rabscuttle385
Behold, the disease is telling us about the cure...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

40 posted on 08/08/2010 10:07:20 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The problem is the two party system that has entrenched itself into perpetuity. The system has been perverted to where it is the largest minority that has the power, not the majority. DumBO was elected because he had the backing of two large minorities, loons and racists. Here in Tennessee we had two good conservatives loose to a RINO. In the end the Bolshecrat candidate may be more conservative than the RINO, or, at least that is the way it will play in the campaign. Ms. Graham is looking for a RINO-DINO party. Though, I think he will be hard pressed to find any DINOs in the CIABNO (communist in all but name only) party.


41 posted on 08/08/2010 11:41:13 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (2010, the beginning of the end of our long national nightmare.)
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To: rabscuttle385

can’t wait until this idiot is out of office...


42 posted on 08/08/2010 11:47:24 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: rabscuttle385

In that same line of logic, Lindsay could also argue that only illegals can fix the US immigration policy.


43 posted on 08/08/2010 12:25:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Hmmm, sound like Grahamnesty's first little bubbles floating off about turning independent. Will Lindsey pull a Crist? The sooner, the better.

Here's the thing, you little nitwit Lindsey, you've just said that you can not help solve our problems, because you are a Republican (ok RINO). You ought to resign or immediately become an independent, right there with Sen. Bernie Sanders. Both 'independents'. Hahaha!

44 posted on 08/08/2010 2:01:52 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Farmer Dean

He doesn’t have to. South Carolina voters keep reelecting him regardless of what he says or does.


45 posted on 08/08/2010 11:02:29 PM PDT by DangerZone
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It seems to be working for Charlie Crist.


46 posted on 08/08/2010 11:08:04 PM PDT by DangerZone
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To: Tennessean4Bush

It’s four long years before he is up for reelection.


47 posted on 08/08/2010 11:10:08 PM PDT by DangerZone
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To: Soothesayer

If conservatives can’t salvage the Republican party, then what makes you think they can do anything substantial with an independent party?


48 posted on 08/08/2010 11:11:36 PM PDT by DangerZone
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To: Secret Agent Man

After the elections, I can see him suggesting just that.


49 posted on 08/08/2010 11:32:56 PM PDT by DangerZone
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