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Commemorating a Major U.S. War Crime
National Catholic Register ^ | 8/8/10 | Jimmy Akin

Posted on 08/10/2010 5:42:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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What are your thoughts?
1 posted on 08/10/2010 5:42:34 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; Salvation

Your thoughts?


2 posted on 08/10/2010 5:43:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In theory. there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

My thoughts are that he is wrong. If using the atomic bomb was wrong, so was the whole prosecution of WW2, in all theaters. War is bad ... but either it’s *all* bad, or it’s not. Weapons are just a tool.


3 posted on 08/10/2010 5:44:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Large realities dwarf and overshadow the tiny human figures reacting to them.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If the bombs were bad, then our actions before this point were worse. We had fire bombed entire Japanese cities and towns off the map. From the view of the bombing campaign alone, the two bombs saved tremendously more Japanese lives than it cost.


4 posted on 08/10/2010 5:48:48 PM PDT by Ingtar (If he could have taxed it, Obama's hole would have been plugged by now.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Japanese sowed the wind at Pearl Harbor and reaped the whirlwind at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. President Truman was right to authorize the Bomb. He saved countless American lives, and countless Japanese who would have died in an unsuccessful defense of the home islands. On a personal note, my father was spared deployment to the invasion of Japan. I endorse the bombing without reservation.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
5 posted on 08/10/2010 5:49:47 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Our only mistake was not using atomic weapons in Korea.

A second use would have shown our resolve and there
would have been now doubt about our ability to use
them again.


6 posted on 08/10/2010 5:49:52 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I don't see the two A bomb raids as war crimes; the real war crime in question was the Japanese government not throwing in the towel after the fall of the Marianas.

Nonetheless, I don't see the use of those two bombs as having been necessary either. I'd have saved them for Mecca and Medina. WW-II was basically over, Japan's 75 largest cities were in ashes, and they were looking for a way out. There were 20,000,000 people walking around in forests because the cities in which they used to live no longer existed.

7 posted on 08/10/2010 5:50:11 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Harry S Truman. The “the Buck Stops Here” Democrat. Never once blamed FDR for getting us into a crazy war in Europe, which hadn’t attacked us.


8 posted on 08/10/2010 5:51:10 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?Five?No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

My thought is that Jimmy Akin is a flaming idiot. The atomic bombs saved millions of both Japanese and American lives. Jimmy Akin knows nothing of history or of war making.
Why? How?

Japan had a national code to never, ever surrender. They where willing to fight to the last man standing.
Had not Truman authorized the use of the Atomic bomb, the war with Japan would have dragged on for years.

The fact that is took two Atomic bombs to make Japan realize that it had absolutely no chance attests to the need to use the Atomic bombs.
It was a courageous act of mercy on the part United States part. This re-writting of history is evil.


10 posted on 08/10/2010 5:53:07 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Millions more could have died had the war drawn on longer. Dropping those two bombs "cauterized" that wound preventing more death.

The deterrent value since then has saved untold lives more.

11 posted on 08/10/2010 5:54:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: DoughtyOne

I am writing this post to apologize for taking the NCR to task unfairly. The headline led me to believe this publication was going to chastise the U.S. heavily for it’s use of atomic weapons.

I leveled a withering criticism for that. I was wrong to do so.

The article and publication actually defend the U.S. and it’s use of these WMDs.

I am sorry to have posted an unfair criticism, and I asked that it be removed.


12 posted on 08/10/2010 5:55:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success, not failure.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Does that absolve the U.S. of guilt in these two bombings?

The "U.S". is not guilty of anything. Only individual human beings can commit sins and are thereby either guilty or not guilty.

13 posted on 08/10/2010 5:57:20 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Fortunately for us, the Vatican was not bombed on Dec 7, 1941. Well, maybe fortunately......


14 posted on 08/10/2010 5:57:51 PM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It is real easy to make comments like those 65 years later.

When it comes to war you should only use the information available at the time. To do otherwise is akin to suing a racetrack for failing to cash a false ticket printed weeks after the race was ran.

I will always remember that my father was scheduled to be a landing craft crewman running between the attack transport anchorage and the shore. He wasn't expected to survive a week. That was two years before I was born.

15 posted on 08/10/2010 5:58:06 PM PDT by Nip
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The trouble is these people that cry war crimes are safe from possibility that the may have been in the first wave to assault the beaches of Japan. Otherwise they may have a different opinion.


16 posted on 08/10/2010 5:58:42 PM PDT by MCF
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Armchair Generals, they always see so clearly.

Armchair General Akin: "Let's see now, if I was in charge 60+ years ago, I'd have simply said no to dropping those bombs."

"Would we have lost a huge number of Americans invading the Japanese Islands (many of whom had already been voluntarily fighting for years, to free people they had never met), and maybe have had to kill just as many Japanese civilians as the bombs did anyway, because they would have fanatically defended their homeland?"

"Well, yeah, but I, Armchair General Akin, would have felt morally superior about it, you know what I mean?"

17 posted on 08/10/2010 6:00:50 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“And I’m commemorating a massive F U moment for N C R.”

You and me both. What’s up with the Catholic church these days? They turn a blind eye to 0bama and Pelosi with their abortion driven agendas. They embrace illegal immigration and cover up for homosexual, pedophillic priests. I am becoming beyond disgusted with them. (Jim’s w)


18 posted on 08/10/2010 6:01:04 PM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: DoughtyOne

Okay, well, the withering criticism of NCR is back. This guy is one major pinhead.


And I’m commemorating a massive F U moment for N C R.

We were attacked. We tried to get Japan to surrender. It even refused to after we used the first atomic bomb.

We told Japan there would be more attacks if they didn’t surrender. They didn’t surrender. We attacked again.

War is hell. I hope there is never an instance of massive weapons like this being used again, but the N C R makes it more likely by printing trash like this.

The U. S. is demonized here. That just builds up anger by non-U. S. Citizens. It justifies anything they want to do to us, because we’re supposedly a pariah state. N C R has inferred as much.

This is disgusting to the max.

A war crime? No, N C R, has leveled a world class example of hate speech here. Some people should lose their jobs over this. I’ll reflect on citizenship until later...


19 posted on 08/10/2010 6:01:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success, not failure.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Now, make no mistake. I’m an American.

I think not. I think that he is an America hater, some that his cushy American life has permitted him to be.

The Japanese had given ample evidence of their fanaticism and their willingness to sacrifice everything in service to the Emperor. Securing Japan's rapid and unconditional surrender was not worth the unnecessary expenditure of a single American soldier's life. The American people would never have forgiven Truman if they found out that he had the bombs available and chose not to use them, but to allow American soldiers to continue to die in combat. With Germany and Japan defeated, the West knew that they had neither the strength nor will to stand up to the Soviet Union if they decided to advance their interests militarily. Use of the Atomic Bombs against Japan served as a warning to Stalin and was absolutely necessary.

When this subject comes up with my Japanese friends and acquaintances, I always ask them if they have renounced their policy of eating their prisoners. The discussion usually turns to other topics.

20 posted on 08/10/2010 6:03:20 PM PDT by centurion316
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