Fiorina says she opposes calls to alter the 14th Amendment (RINO ALERT)

The Los Angeles Times ^ | 2010-08-13

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The Republican U.S. Senate nominee says she's tough on illegal immigration but draws the line on altering the amendment, which grants citizenship to all people born in the United States.

BY MAEVE RESTON

Republican U.S. Senate nominee Carly Fiorina said Thursday that she opposes calls from some conservatives to alter the 14th Amendment, which grants citizenship to all people born in the United States.

Fiorina sought to appeal to conservative voters on immigration issues during her party's primary this spring, strongly backing Arizona's tough new law on illegal immigration, for example. But she drew the line Thursday at the question of denying birthright citizenship — an issue that could be highly controversial among the state's large number of Latino voters.

"I don't think that's a useful dialogue — I don't support changing the 14th Amendment," Fiorina told reporters after speaking to a convention of California Hispanic Chambers of Commerce in downtown Los Angeles. "I think what we need to do is have the federal government do its job and secure the border and have a temporary worker program that works. And all the rest of it is a distraction and, unfortunately, an emotional distraction."

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[Pearls Before Swine]

There’s no need to alter the 14th. Just stop mis-interpreting it. Births to foreigners were addressed in the Congressional debate, and the “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” language was supposed to take care of that. But, that’s been conveniently forgotten by vote-pandering schemers of both parties (GWB, too).

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*Ping!*

[FlingWingFlyer]

The 14th Amendment was never intended to be used as an escalator to citizenship. It’s time that its correct meaning be understood.

[VRWCmember]

Good. Don’t try to alter it at all. Just clarify that it means what it was originally intended to mean and that children born of aliens in this country have the same citizenship status as their alien parents.

[Personal Responsibility]

The 14th does not need to be ammended. It has been misinterpreted for years. All it needs is to be interpreted properly.

Here's the relevant text: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

Mark Levin spent about a half hour Wednesday talking about how you can't confer jurisdiction on yourself simply by being here. His audio is up on his website - I strongly encourage anyone who thinks we need to ammend the 14th to listen to the broadcast from Aug 11th.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

While I am no fan of the changing the Constitution in regard of the 14th Amendment (Lindsey Graham’s attempt to Backdoor Amnesty)....Fiorina is still a Liberal RINO who is lying about her support of Illegal Alien Amnesty

BTW....the 14th Amendment allows for legislative adjustment...so they can fix the Anchor-Baby stuff without going the Const Amendment route....the Const Amend. route is just Grahamnesty’s Backdoor Illegal Alien Amnesty

[newfreep]

Carly may lean toward RINOism but she would be a HUGH improvement over that Box-o-Rocks.

This is Kaleefornia - baby steps to get better.

LAT simply trying to discourage her supporters and help Box-O win in Nov.

[umgud]

If we don’t roll over and strongly support amnesty, open borders and birthright citezenship, we’ll lose the hispanic vote. /s

[DTogo]

"I think what we need to do is have the federal government do its job and secure the border and have a temporary worker program that works. And all the rest of it is a distraction and, unfortunately, an emotional distraction."

That's actually an accurate statement, subject to Liberal/Conservative interpretation and implementation.

[Mr. K]

i would rather NOT have Fiorina running, but now that she is I HOPE she defeats Boxer.

But the best thing she can do is STFU and let the ant-incumbant mood take down Boxer.

That said, this IS California... A majority of voters there probably agree with her.. It would be nice to have someone pander to the democraps then STICK IT TO THEM after the election (there's always a first time!)

[Oldexpat]

I will have a difficult time voting for Carly, but I guess I will. The only thing she gives us is a possible Senate majority..but she not be there on many of the issues that we find important.

[wolfman23601]

What do you expect? Half the people she wants to represent either have anchor babies or are anchor babies themselves.

[EQAndyBuzz]

Hmm... RINO Alert.

Hey, let’s all stay home and not vote for the RINO because that worked so well in 2006 and 2008.

[bill1952]

>But the best thing she can do is STFU and let the ant-incumbant mood take down Boxer.

How true. How true.
I cannot believe that she felt the political need to interject herself into a contentious debate that will be spun against here no matter what she says.

[bill1952]

The only thing she gives us is a possible Senate majority.

Right now that would be HUGE.
Redistricting is coming up & we do not want to be on the short end of that stick!

Half a loaf would definitely be better in Cal & we can always work for more. :)
Thank you for your post.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“I will have a difficult time voting for Carly, but I guess I will. The only thing she gives us is a possible Senate majority..but she not be there on many of the issues that we find important.”

Just curious. What issues besides a SCOTUS nominee, the economy, Obamacare, National Security, Amnesty or an energy policy would make you not vote for Carly?

[WOSG]

“There’s no need to alter the 14th. Just stop mis-interpreting it. Births to foreigners were addressed in the Congressional debate, and the “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” language was supposed to take care of that.”

EXACTLY. THIS NEEDS TO BE SAID AGAIN AND AGAIN.

The media is trying to make this about ‘changing the constitution’ when in fact its not. They makes it sound more radical than it is. Tere is NOTHING in the consitution that requires a person who crosses illegally at midnight and give birth at 12:05 on US soil to be a US citizen at birth.

Previous SCOTUS rulings extended birthright citizenship to children of permanent residents, but no further!

[NoDRodee]

“I think what we need to do is have the federal government do its job and secure the border and have a temporary worker program that works. And all the rest of it is a distraction and, unfortunately, an emotional distraction.”

I agree - Secure the Borders and there is no need to touch 14th Amendment.

Also: 14th Amendment interpeted correctly do not allow birth citizenship for illegals.

Why change it?

[Reagan is King]

It’s my understanding that they can amend the amendment which was never intended for anchor babies. That’s a much easier and doable route IMO and needs to be done asap. And yes, Fiorina is a RINO but since she’s opposing that old bat Boxer I’d vote for her if I had to until we could get a real conservative in there.